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Looks like that Order of the Grand Conqueror and Order of Great September Revolution is the same thing. Am I right? However Yuschenko's ribbon is bluish and Grand Conqueror ribbon is green for sure - I've seen it in real.

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Al-Fatah Medal

Also known as the ?Medal for the 1969 Revolution?.

Dear Gentlemen,

could you help me for identification and more details :

it's looks like the Al-Fatah Medal, but with different side

thanks in advance

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Gentlemen,

This is the Decoration of Military Duty, 1969, of the Libyan Arab Republic - modelled on the Egyptian medal. Many of the early medals of the Republic were modelled on the Egyptian series of military awards.

Regards, Owain

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Gentlemen,

This is the Decoration of Military Duty, 1969, of the Libyan Arab Republic - modelled on the Egyptian medal. Many of the early medals of the Republic were modelled on the Egyptian series of military awards.

Regards, Owain

Many thanks for details Owain,

very instructing.

here is the photo of the silver one : is it like a "Class 2" ?

the ribbon fixations are light aluminium made, but don't seems repro (i hope it is not ! ) : is the correct ribbon red/white/black ?

sincerely

paul

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Paul,

Yes, this is the 2nd Class medal - there may indeed be a 3rd Class in bronze but not sure. The 800 silver mark may indicate it was made by BOMISA of Italy, but again no 100% evidence. The ribbon I believe is a lightish blue with a narrow red stripe inset from both edges. The suspension is correct and poorly made - ditto the Egyptian series.

Regards, owain

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Many thanks again Owain,

Do anybody knows any place to order those ribbons, even reproductions or close ones ?

Best Regards,

Paul

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Paul,

No idea where you could get ribbons - possibly BOMISA in Milan? I attach images of the medals in my collection - the ribbon is blue with green stripes not red stripes. As well as two classes of the medal there are two types - the Libyan Arab Republic 1969-79 and the Libyan Arab Peoples Socialist Jamahuryia 1979-2011. The 1st type weighs 27.4gms and is 37.5mm in diameter. The 2nd type, with ribbon, weighs 29.3gms and is 37.6mm in diameter. The reverse bears an 800 silver mark - again probably of Italian manufacture.

Owain

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Gentlemen,

the bellow Liberation Medal, is it liberation from Italian occupation ?

(sorry for my poor knowledge ! )

many thanks

Paul

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I hope my notes below help.....Owain

The Medal of Liberation of the Senoussi Army

Obverse Reverse

Obverse In the foreground the flag of the Senoussis, black with crescent and star, superimposed upon the rising sun above the sands and on either side a sundered chain.

Reverse In the centre the Arabic inscription, “Medal of Liberation of the Senoussi Army” and the date “9 August 1940”. In the exurge beginning at the three o’clock position the inscription from the Koran “And those who believe and adopt exile and fight for the Faith, in the cause of God, as well as those who give them asylum and aid – these are all in very truth the Believers: for them is the forgiveness of sins and a provision most generous,” (Chapter 8, Verse 74).

Ribbon 12.5mm red ribbon with a central 5mm band of four black and three white stripes.

In June 1940 Italy entered the Second World War as an ally of the Nazi Germany and many Libyan exiles, an estimated 14,000 in Egypt alone, saw this involvement in the war as an opportunity to free their country from Italian rule. Under the leadership of Idris support for the British war effort became mobilised and in Cairo, in August 1940, the exiles passed resolutions calling for participation in the war alongside the British forces and under the banner of the Senoussi. “A recruiting office was opened in Egypt and five infantry battalions of volunteers were eventually mustered as the Libyan Arab Force. These troops made a marginal contribution to the allied war effort in North Africa. Some were present during the fighting in the Derna-Tobruk sector in early 1942, but the Libyan Arab Force was as a whole, only a gendarmerie, fulfilling police and guard duties as ‘base troops’ well behind the lines, and thereby relieving front line units of these routine but very necessary tasks.” (John Wright, Libya A Modern History.) Following independence the veterans of the Senoussi Army formed the nucleus of the Royal Libyan Army. I would suggest that this medal was instituted to recognise the service of the members of the Libyan Arab Force or Senoussi Army. (Manufactured by Bichay of Cairo.)

The symbolism of the ribbon’s colours can be equated to the symbolism attaching to the flag of the Kingdom. A popular Libyan poem reads,

“Our deeds are the colour of white,

Our battles of black,

Our meadows of green,

And our swords of red.”

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Oooh! Interesting information, thank you folks!

Owain, Savoy - you know what I'm going to ask... please, may I have permission to use your images on my website? With due acknowledgement, of course.

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Owain, Savoy - you know what I'm going to ask... please, may I have permission to use your images on my website? With due acknowledgement, of course.

Many thanks Owain, very interesting, i will keep this preciously in my data.

Megan : Yes you are welcome to use my "Decoration of Military Duty" medals photos (and other i could send to you), i will be proud if i can help to complete your great website.

regards

Paul

Edited by Savoy

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Thank you so much, Paul and Owain. Without the kindness of the likes of you, my website would be a far duller place!

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Dear Ilja,

The open book reads "The Green Book". The reverse central inscription reads, "The Great Fatah Decoration" and is surrounded by, "The Socialist Peoples Lybian Arab Jamahariyah".

Regards,

Owain

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Thank you Owain. May be you have any additional information about this medal?

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Star:

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These were sent to me by James Miller, the master goldsmith who made them! He says that he made it about 1980 and it was all hand-made - the order was for 14 sets of the insignia and the short timescale meant that there was no time to prepare steel dies!

In these days, I'm studying a collection of modern orders and decorations of the islamic/arab states, belonged to a late diplomat: I've already seen a breast star of the Libyan Order of the Great Conqueror, of a slightly different manufacture than the pieces posted by Megan. It is made of gilt, 925/ooo silver and green enamel. The piece is imposing and very attractive. The medallion's outer circlet bears the dates of institution "1989" and "1399".

 

There's also a 1st Class of the Kuwaiti Wissam al-Tahrir, or "Order of the Libération" (I think that the 1st Class could be quite rare), etc., mostly from the Gulf states.

 

I hope I'll be allowed to take pictures and contribute to these interesting threads.

 

Best wishes,

 

Enzo

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Full set of 1st class

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Lybia I in box.jpg

full set of 2nd class

Lybia II box.jpg

Lybia II in box.jpg

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Dear Gro,

According to the case inscriptions, outer and inner, the upper illustration is the "Decoration of Military Duty 1st Class" of "The Libyan Arab Republic" and the second illustration is of the "Decoration of Military Duty 2nd Class" of "The Socialist Peoples Libyan Arab Jamahariyah". Reverse images of the medals should confirm these designations.

Kind regards,

Owain

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On 9/7/2008 at 12:44, Megan said:

Wissam al-Jihad

 

Instituted: 1971.

Awarded: For contributions to the well-being of the Libyan people.

 

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Inscription: [But Allah has preferred the mujahideen over those who remain behind with a great reward.]

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