Hauptmann Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Hi all,Here's my contribution for now... I'll try to scan and post my others asap:Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontovik Mike Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Question... How does one sort out DEMBEL from wartime trench art or field craft?? My guess is you cannot. I suppose the tradition of DEMBEL would push much of the hand made items into that category. But given all the engraved items and other types of fieldcraft such as cigarette lighters, spoons etc I would have to think unique belt buckles would have been a fairly common item to have been made wartime as well by troops still in active duty. I have a handcrafted square brass buckle I will show here soon that has an engraved Soviet national symbol on it, but it was made to fit a German belt. DEMBEL or wartime??? For comparison, I also have a skillet fabricated from a cutout German Canteen bottle. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belaruski Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I think Dembel typically means standard insignia modified to make it appear 'special'. Such as piping added to collars, badges cut up and glued or sewn together in layers to make 3d ones etc.The Dembel stuff is completely non regulation, wheras field made things are usually are personal stuff, and not for wear. (The obvious exception is in modified German equipment during the war). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieC Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I think Dembel typically means standard insignia modified to make it appear 'special'. Such as piping added to collars, badges cut up and glued or sewn together in layers to make 3d ones etc.The Dembel stuff is completely non regulation, wheras field made things are usually are personal stuff, and not for wear. (The obvious exception is in modified German equipment during the war). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieC Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 ..................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergey Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 .....................................RichieC these officers from infantry ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takc Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 Rich, I think our naval buckles were made by one man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieC Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 RichieC these officers from infantry ?Sergey, I wish I knew for certain. There seems to not be any insignia (for example, tank, or artillery), so these men may be indeed be infantry. But who is to know (?), as I believe that many of the branches did not wear insignia on their field boards at times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontovik Mike Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Great buckle Richie... Mine is similarly crude, but there was an attempt to add the H/S to the center of the star as well as a few of the sun rays. I will post it tonight. MikeB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergey Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Sergey, I wish I knew for certain. There seems to not be any insignia (for example, tank, or artillery), so these men may be indeed be infantry. But who is to know (?), as I believe that many of the branches did not wear insignia on their field boards at times...I thought that looking at a photo is possible see signs on a uniform. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontovik Mike Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Here are mine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Hi all,Sorry it took me a bit longer than I'd expected. Had to get through work till the weekend so I'd have time. Finally went down in the bunker and did all my scans in one fell swoop.First off... Soviet dress belt. This is on the golden/yellow type belt with the dagger hangers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 And this is the marking on the end of the belt that the buckle goes on:Soviet Navy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 (edited) And the markings on the inside of the belt. Hard to see I know... I tried adjusting the pic's color balance as best I could which helped a bit... no idea if this means anything to anyone or not:This is on the black belt by the way. Edited March 10, 2007 by Hauptman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Soviet Army... brown belt: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 And the markings on the inside of the belt: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Anyhow that's the extent of my Soviet belt/buckle collection at present. I hope to someday be able to add the field version of the Army, the Enlisted white dress belt for parades and such and a black Navy with dagger hangers.Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belaruski Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 (edited) Mike, those field made buckles are superb! Thanks for sharing! Here's a two piece variation of the 1935 officers pattern belt. Edited March 10, 2007 by Belaruski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontovik Mike Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Mike, those field made buckles are superb! Thanks for sharing! Here's a two piece variation of the 1935 officers pattern belt.Yes, nice example at that... Not too common, at least not on this side of the ocean.Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Hello,found this belt buckle at the weekend on the flea market. Has somebody more pictures about the fixing of thebelt leather? How does it look like?regards and thanksAndreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieC Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 A variation on Mike's: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieC Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Hello,found this belt buckle at the weekend on the flea market. Has somebody more pictures about the fixing of thebelt leather? How does it look like?regards and thanksAndreasAndreas,Do you need to see the buckle end of a belt, or the whole thing in general? Richie C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 A variation on Mike's:Hi Richie,An awesome buckle... as is Mikes! Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Andreas,Do you need to see the buckle end of a belt, or the whole thing in general? Richie CHello Richie,all pictures would be helpful. Especially the fixing of the leather at the brass buckle. regardsAndreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belaruski Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Sorry I didn't spot this question earlier!Here are some pics. As you can see the leather simply is looped araound the 'bracket' on the buckle, the end of the belt just slides through and is kept in place by the brass stud. The heavily worn/repaired one is interesting in terms of construction, but the bett example still has the backing and leather 'tongue' behind the buckle to protect the tunic. (These belts weren't meant for combat use, but were very popular and used in combination with combat, service and parade uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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