EK 1939 EK's 1 & II Wachtler & Lange?

[Alex K]

Hi I have these to EK's, 1 & II. The 2nd class is stamped 100 on the ring, indicating Wachtler & Lange manufacture. The EK1 is totally unmarked. It does show many similarities with the EKII, which makes me think that it is also W&L.

Would any experts like to comment on this and to confirm or otherwise, that it is likely to be a W&L?

thanks for any help.

regards

Alex K

[Bill Garvy]

Could we see the reverse of the 1st Class cross please? It might make it easier to discern.

[Dave B]

Yep it's a W?chtler.

Checkout the highlighted below, same "crunched" beading.

[Alex K]

Hi Dave B, well spotted, I must admit I never saw that when I was looking at the larger scans, Confirms it for me.

thanks for the help gentlemen

Alex

[Dave B]

Hi Dave B, well spotted, I must admit I never saw that when I was looking at the larger scans, Confirms it for me.

thanks for the help gentlemen

Alex

No problem Alex.

Let's see the reverse anyway and if it is marked then the 100 will be stamped on the underside of the pin.

[Alex K]

Hi I'll see what I can conjure up

regards

Alex

[ekhunter]

No problem Alex.

Let's see the reverse anyway and if it is marked then the 100 will be stamped on the underside of the pin.

I too would like to see the reverse of the cross. Of course it could have an L/55 stamp under the pin also, but I would be surprised. Many, or should I say most of the W&L's that I see with non ferrous cores are unmarked, and this one appears to be non ferrous.

Edited June 14, 2007 by ekhunter

[Dave B]

I too would like to see the reverse of the cross. Of course it could have an L/55 stamp under the pin also, but I would be surprised. Many, or should I say most of the W&L's that I see with non ferrous cores are unmarked, and this one appears to be non ferrous.

Very true.

[DavidM]

Hello

Before I even saw the other replies, the first pictures of the two crosses screamed W&L, maker 100. So in my opinion, the EK1 is definiately a Wachtler & Lange.

[Alex K]

Hi thanks for all the comments which confirm thats it's a W& L, attached as requested the reverse, as can be seen when compared with others, the clasp has at some stage been repaired, I suspect post war, as it is somewhat flimsy and would not have stood up to the rigours of active combat. Careful examination shows no markings on the reverse, medal or pin. The inner core is non magnetic, and made of Brass, which to me indicates and early war piece, BTW thanks for all the comments

regards

Alex

[James Clark]

This is a match for my unmarked non-ferrous centred EK1, identified as being W&L. The catch on mine is soldered on in such a way that I can see how it might easily break off.

[Dave B]

Here's one of mine non ferrous non marked W&L's.

[Alex K]

Hi Dave B Thats a very minty EK1 there, I'm envious , only joking, it does seem to be in a very mint condition though.

regards

Alex

[Alex K]

This is a match for my unmarked non-ferrous centred EK1, identified as being W&L. The catch on mine is soldered on in such a way that I can see how it might easily break off.

Hi James, from what I've seen of other W & L Crosses,so far, the clasp does seem flimsy in comparison to other manufacturers, maybe it was a W & L quality issue?. I believe that my version is a repair after the original broke off.

regards

Alex

[Dave B]

Hi Dave B Thats a very minty EK1 there, I'm envious , only joking, it does seem to be in a very mint condition though.

regards

Alex

Yep, I like 'em minty...

[Dave B]

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[Dave B]

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[James Clark]

Mine is not quite mint....

[James Clark]

Neither is the case....

[Alex K]

Hi d

Dave, Beutifully Awsome pieces, where do you find them?? You ain't got a little unknown press in the garden shed by any chance!!!?

regards

Alex

[gregM]

Dave, absolutely beautifull crosses !!!!!!!!

[Dave B]

You ain't got a little unknown press in the garden shed by any chance!!!?

Damn...foiled!!

Thanks chaps

[buellmeister]

Sorry for the double posting here..

Edited June 15, 2007 by buellmeister

[buellmeister]

Gents,

One of my favorite Crosses as well!

[Alex K]

Another nice minty one buellmeister, I'll have to see if I can dig a minty out

regards

Alex