airborne steve Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Backside of eagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne steve Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 (edited) Additionally I have also received these LW "LS" (luftschutz) Bau shoulder straps. PaulR how do you like them?Steve Edited August 6, 2007 by airborne steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne steve Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 (edited) Back side. They are a slight mis-match but came as a pair.Steve Edited August 6, 2007 by airborne steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 I recognize this tunic from the Oakleaf militaria site. The price was great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Additionally I have also received these LW "LS" (luftschutz) Bau shoulder straps. PaulR how do you like them?SteveThose are not Bau. They were motorized SHD units, brought directly into the Luftwaffe... On 10Mar1942, the motorized SHD Battalions were transferred to the Luftwaffe and re-designated the motorized Air Protection Battalions.See details here! http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=20352 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne steve Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 (edited) Hi Paul,That tunic took forever to sell? It had a bit more wear than I like on a tunic but I was nearly ready to spring some loose chash for it. Too late it sold! Bummer.Paul, I figured you would know the truth on these shoulder straps.Steve Edited August 7, 2007 by airborne steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Those shoulder straps are very misunderstood. Most people(myself included, until I researched them recently) think it was for LW personnel attached to the Luftschutz. Actually, it is the other way around- to a point.Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lyons Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 I just won a single shoulder strap with that very combination on it, I will post it here when it arrives in the mailfrom the auction house that I scored it from, nice to see the pair together Steve.Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lyons Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Just after I typed out my reply the postman was delivering my single shoulder strap with the 'LS' device on it,so here is my example, very slight variation from Steve's.... (It cost me $60 Aust, or about 50 US, so hope I was in the ballpark with price). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lyons Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Now to muddy the water a bit, in B.L. Davis' book Uniforms & Insignia of the Luftwaffe Volume 11933-1940, on page 133, illustration number 368, he states that:''LS Entwined letters worn by personnel of the School for Air Traffic Control"(Reichsschule fur Luftaufsicht).The chart from page 133.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lyons Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 As does Jack Angolia in his Volume 1 of 'Uniforms and Traditions of the Luftwaffe',Page 374 has these illustrations..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lyons Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 same book, page 375...Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 same book, page 375...BobSo... there is no way to tell for sure which it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne steve Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 (edited) All I can say is that these straps a really cool! Bob nice strap. My straps are a little mis matched but came as a pair and were tied togeather.Steve Edited August 8, 2007 by airborne steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lyons Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Hi Steve,I agree, now I start my quest to try and get a pair of them (I have a pair with the aluminium devices on them for an NCO)and I wouldn't care if they were slightly different sizes either, you have a very nice pair of them.Paul I think either would fit the bill by the look of it, I will run with what they are calling them in the books I think.CheersBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne steve Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 (edited) Bob,I would like to get a LW, "LS" flyers tunic with black piped straps and tabs. Jr. EM of course.Steve Edited August 9, 2007 by airborne steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lyons Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 I sure do want to see the photos of it when you get it !Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne steve Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Check this tunic out? It is a SS camp guard tunic from the LW?Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne steve Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne steve Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Also, look at the back, there is a draw string to bring in the waist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne steve Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Lining! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne steve Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Large tunic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne steve Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Tab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne steve Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 I don't know about you but I wouldn't want this tunic because it would draw to much controversey for my taste. Also, no shoulder straps etc. wierd tunic.Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 I don't know about you but I wouldn't want this tunic because it would draw to much controversey for my taste. Also, no shoulder straps etc. wierd tunic.SteveI know... I saw that one as well. It really made scratch my head. Could be 100%(but where are the shoulder straps. There is no RECORDED waffenfarbe for these troops on Temporary assignment), but too risky for the cash involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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