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probably he never got one.

Young Lt in WW1, did whatever civil job between WW1 and WW2, so no "blue ribbon" available for him.

Greetings

Daniel

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Hi Daniel,

New date for you :

Oblt Theodor Spieß from P.B. Nr. 5 : HHO3X on 20.05.1917.

Christophe

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Hi Daniel,

I finally got around 10 - 15 kg papers with some lists what will be my very first "type it to the excel format" project.

There is as well some Hohenzollern indicated but I am not sure are you interested as well to the civilian ones or you main task is only awards with the swords?

Here is one name example (very weird abreviations!!! Don't know do I keep them in same format or I better follow the ones posted here?)

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Hi Noor,

VEEERY INTERESTING weird source which I have not seen before.

What is that?????

I would be very much interested in more from this.

Your 1st example Wendt is one I do still not have in my list. As there are no other peacetime awards shown and a peacetime HOH is already something extraordinary and nearly unthinkable without any other award like the Red Eagle before I would assume they mean here the HOH3X instead of a HOH3.

There were 3 Wendts with a HOH3X, a Freiherr, a Georg von and Immo Wendt, still no Erwin...

Greetings

Daniel

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Hi Daniel,

New one for you

Hauptmann Emil Steinhoff IR Nr. 344, HHO3X : 27/08/1918

Christophe

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Thanks!!!

He was the Commander of the 1st Bataillon, Militärwochenblatt date 26.10.18 Staatsanzeiger date 26.09.18

Greetings

Daniel

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Daniel,

New date for you

Hauptmann Robert von Zimmermann, HHO3X : 15 October 1918

Regards

Christophe

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Yes, but its not really new...

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Its a part of my webside http://www.ordensmuseum.de/HoH/HoH.htm

Regards

Red

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Sorry, but I do not believe this is a genuine ribbon bar.

Main reason is the former seller whose fancy ribbons bars, sold over the years, all look very similar. Conspiciouis similar.

There are also some details which I honestly don't like, e.g. the bronze swords for the China KO4X on #3...

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Hi. Thanks for your comment.

Can you point me to / show me images of some similar pieces of the same seller?

Regards. Peter.

Sorry, but I do not believe this is a genuine ribbon bar.

Main reason is the former seller whose fancy ribbons bars, sold over the years, all look very similar. Conspiciouis similar.

There are also some details which I honestly don't like, e.g. the bronze swords for the China KO4X on #3...

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Gladly, Peter. Here are some similar ones from my files. All from the very same seller:

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Hi Daniel,

Here is another officer who received the HHO3X : Saxon Oberleutnant Diedrich Bischoff from FAR 77.

Here is a close up of his ribbon bar

Christophe

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Daniel

I have a new date for you.

Major Erwin Ludwig von Steinberg, Baden FAR Nr. 76: Actual award patent for HOH3X- 26.4.1918 (temporary patent was marked 29.9.1918). i have seen both documents. If you need pictures please let me know. Thanks to everyone who helped me to start researching this guy.

ostprussenmann

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Hi Daniel,

New information.

Leutnant d. R Oskar Thierfelder from RIR 133 has received the Hohenzollern knight cross at the end of the war (for the moment I have no date).

This officer received the St Henry silver medal and the knight cross of St Henry.

Christophe

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According to his SS file, Hans Hohl from FAA 226 received his HOH3X on 2.5.1918 and it was numbered Nr. 5930.

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@Christophe; thanks a lot!!! Do You have any source mentioning him as Hohenzollern knight or a picture? He did as well geth the Albrecht ans Merit ORder with swords! Awesome decorated Saxon!!

@Dave: Thanks a lot!!!

@all; come on friends, lets continue! At the moment I have 7643 Hohenzollern knights, 410 more than Geile had in the 90ies. I am still missing 648 names :-)

Lots of greetings

Daniel

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I am still missing 648 names :-)

Daniel, How do you know you you are missing 648 names? Is there a source that give the total number of HOH3X awarded?

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Hi Paul,

8291 is the number used by Klietmann. The only problem is this man has never given the sources to find the exact number of award.

Christophe

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@Christophe, thank You!!!! Thats from a Regimental History?

@Paul; the number was used by Franz Joseph Ophaus in the 1930ies - Klietmann did "copy" the number.

Greetings

Daniel

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Hi Daniel,

Yes I am fortunate enough to buy the RIR 133 history book for my collection.

Here is a photo of our man. he is the smallest !

Christophe

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