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Here's a picture I found somewhere. An unknown LW Major with HHOX, WF and Meiningen.

Hi Daniel, Here are my bar with the HHOx. The first one is marked 938 on the lower arm. The second one is marked W 938 on the lower arm. The Third is marked als 938 on the lower arm. Ciao, Claud

Hi Daniel I have found may be one another Saxon officer who received the HOH3X. Found in the Riesaer Tagesblatt of 4 november 1918 It's the best I can do, sorry Christophe

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Anyway, it's a beautiful piece from the 1930s, but I sort of doubt it was gold. Almost all pieces of this type (shown by Stogieman) were made of bronze-gilt (some very few were silver gilt).

Here is an identical piece. It's actually shown in this thread, although it's a few years old. The piece is/was Claudio's.

It is bronze-gilt.

 

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Looking closer now, I think that Claudio's bronze-gilt piece is the same one shown by Stogieman.

Brinze Gilt HOH comp.jpg

Here, also from this thread, is what I believe is the same type on a bar owned by Beau, but in silver-gilt.

All of these would have been 1930s-era private purchase types by J. Godet und Sohn. The silver gilt ones are pretty uncommon!

Brinze Gilt HOH Beau Newman.jpg

Beau, do you still have this lovely bar? If so, I'd love to see larger photos of the HOH3X.

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No, I had two all gold Hohenzollerns, both purchased from Detlev Niemann. They were gold, not bronze gilt, not silver gilt.

No I don't own them anymore, these are my archive pictures.

Neither one was sold to Claudio

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I believe I have solved this mystery.

Claudio has confirmed to me that the piece Stogieman shows is the same piece he has. He still has it. He bought it from Stogieman many years ago as a bronze-gilt piece (for a bronze-gilt price).

Since Detlev Niemann was unlikely to confuse bronze for gold, the explanation is most probably that Stogieman mislabeled his photos and posted his old bronze-gilt piece as a gold piece here by accident. Stogie and Claudio, thanks for all the info and help!

Too bad, as I was hoping for some exciting news about 1930s-era Godet pieces made in gold.

But great pieces shown here anyway.

Beau, any chance you still have that bar? I'd be very interested to see the HOH3X and especially the marks.

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Hi Trevor!

Sometimes from the pictures is hard to tell if it's gold, bronze-gilt or silver-gilt, but once you have such a piece in your hands it's easy to see the differences, especially the weight and the quality.

ciao,

C

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7 minutes ago, Claudio said:

Hi Trevor!

Sometimes from the pictures is hard to tell if it's gold, bronze-gilt or silver-gilt, but once you have such a piece in your hands it's easy to see the differences, especially the weight and the quality.

ciao,

C

Thanks for the help Claudio!

It would have been very interesting indeed if Stogieman's piece was gold, because it would have changed some things I thought I knew about Godet's manufacturing during the interwar period. It's for this reason that I was so interested.

Bronze-gilt makes much more sense even if it is less exciting.

Here is one of my lovely gold pieces by Godet, which I believe I have shown here already, next to its younger brother in silver-gilt. Obviously the tooling on these pieces (which both predate 1918) is totally different from the 1930s pieces.

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Hi Beau,

Thanks very much for taking those photos. That is a great example of the type: a J. Godet piece made in the 1930s in gilt silver and marked JG&S 938.

There are many unknowns about these pieces in terms of construction and types once you get into the postwar years but that is one of the well-known and very interesting (if not common) types.

Much appreciated!

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6 hours ago, Deruelle said:

Hi Streptile,

 

Your Hohenzollern collection is amazing. Do you have any box to go with your cross ? Congrats

 

Christophe

Thank you Christophe.

The gold Godet (JGS) and Wagner (W) Knights Crosses both have cases:

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Some of the minis came in small white Godet boxes with gold trim.

I would love to find a case for the Komturkreuz but I think this will be impossible.

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