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Lt dR Wilhelm Ruwie (destroyed seven tanks). From Nassauer Bote, 31.10.1918

Such an amazing project to lift all these brave men from oblivion 👍

Here's a picture I found somewhere. An unknown LW Major with HHOX, WF and Meiningen.

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Hi Dave, 

Thanks for the interesting info on Loeb! 

Hi Daniel, 

Yes the Müllers are a problem in that respect. I have found another late winner, although I'm sure you have him already - Hptm Harry Nadrowski. He was still in the army in 1927, and the announcement of his HOH3x was published in 'Die Presse' (Thorn) on 03rd December 1918:- 

https://kpbc.umk.pl/dlibra/publication/167922/edition/170598/content 

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Harry Nadrowski was an Oberst and Feldkommandant in World War II. His HOH3X was awarded on 15.10.1918, so there was about a month and half between the award and it being published in Die Presse. Due to the revolution, it was apparently not published in the Militär-Wochenblatt or Prussian Staatsanzeiger, but I found the date in his HPA personnel file. Born in 1888, he was living in Frankfurt am Main after World War II, but I haven't found a date of death.

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Matt,

 

"Die Presse" and other local Papers were sometimes even faster than the official publications.

If Nadrowski would have been a local businessman or lawyer and not a career Reichswehr Officer, we would have missed him until now.

I've noticed publication delays in the Militärwochenblatt up to 3 months.

Most of the awards of the HOH3X end of September up to the Abdication did therefor not make it in the MWB or Staatsanzeiger.

 

Best,

Daniel

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Matty, thanks!!

 

Georg Rüffer, born 1871 was an Amtsgerichtsrat in Breslau and Reserve Captain, originally from the Foot Artillery.

As well never mentioned in the official publications due to the late award.

I did know his HOH3X already from the Mitgliederverzeichnis Landwehrkasino Breslau.

You see, there are quite odd sources....

 

Best,

Daniel

 

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I would suggest something for proceeding: since one of the key sources is the regimental histories, could we list those regimental histories that have been checked already? Then others could have a focused look at those histories that have not yet been looked into.  

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Hi webr55, 

Sounds like a good idea in theory. But as there are so many regimental histories, it would probably take too long to list the ones that haven't been researched yet. 

Here is an interesting obituary notice for Lt Hermann Runge. 

 

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Until now, I checked 494 Regimental Histories.

For obvoius reasons, it might be easier, if I list 127 missing ones:

lets start with Prussian Infantry.

So if anybody has one of the following, pls check for nice Portraits and mentioning of Hohenzollern awards :-)

 

2.GRR    LIR 93    LIR 430
GRJB    IR 94    IR 440
RER 1    RIR 99    IR 441
RER 4    RIR 110    IR 446
GR 6    LIR 110    IR 451
RIR 7    RIR 111    IR 452
LIR 8    LIR 111    IR 457
LSIR 10    IR 117    IR 464
LIR 12    LIR 118    IR 466
IR 14    RIR 130    IR 471
LIR 20    IR 131    StB 1
LSIR 20    IR 137    StB 5
IR 21    IR 141    JB 1
RIR 22    IR 144    RJB 1
IR 24    IR 156    JB 2
RIR 25    IR 162    RJB 2
LIR 27    IR 164    RJB 3
IR 28    IR 166    JB 4
LIR 28    IR 169    RJB 6
IR 29    IR 175    JB 8
LIR 29    IR 186    JB 9
IR 30    IR 187    JB 11
RIR 30    IR 188    JB 14
LIR 30    RIR 203    RJB 20
LIR 33    RIR 206    RJB 21
RIR 34    RIR 212    RJB 22
LIR 35    RIR 220    JB 27
RIR 36    RIR 222    
LIR 36    RIR 224    
LIR 46    RIR 227    
IR 54    RIR 228    
IR 59    RIR 231    
IR 60    RIR 234    
IR 61    RIR 238    
RIR 65    RIR 252    
LIR 66    RIR 253    
IR 68    RIR 256    
IR 69    RIR 257    
RIR 69    RIR 271    
LIR 72    IR 331    
RIR 73    IR 332    
LIR 74    IR 333    
RIR 75    IR 347    
LIR 75    IR 353    
LIR 78    IR 360    
IR 79    IR 371    
IR 81    IR 395    
LIR 82    IR 407    
LIBtl 89    IR 409    
IR 93    IR 417    

 

As far as I know, the following 154 Units did NOT have a history.

 

RIR 1    RIR 218    IR 410    StB 16
RIR 2    RIR 219    IR 419    StB 17
RER 2    RIR 237    IR 420    RJB 7
LIR 4    RIR 260    IR 421    RJB 24
RIR 5    RIR 264    IR 422    
LIR 5    RIR 268    IR 423    
RIR 6    LIR 327    IR 424    
RIR 11    LIR 328    IR 425    
LIR 11    IR 329    IR 426    
RIR 12    IR 330    IR 427    
LIR 13    IR 334    IR 428    
LIR 16    IR 335    LIR 429    
LIR 17    IR 336    IR 432    
RIR 18    IR 341    IR 433    
LIR 18    IR 342    IR 434    
RIR 20    IR 345    LIR 435    
RIR 21    IR 346    LIR 436    
LIR 21    LIR 349    IR 437    
LIR 22    IR 352    IR 438    
RIR 23    IR 357    IR 439    
LIR 23    IR 358    IR 442    
LIR 26    IR 361    IR 443    
EIR 29    IR 362    IR 444    
LIR 40    IR 363    IR 445    
RIR 49    IR 365    IR 447    
LIR 49    IR 372    IR 448    
LIR 51    IR 373    IR 449    
LIR 52    IR 376    IR 450    
RIR 53    IR 377    IR 453    
RIR 56    IR 378    IR 454    
LIR 60    IR 380    IR 455    
LIR 65    IR 381    IR 456    
RIR 68    LIR 382    IR 458    
LIR 71    LIR 383    IR 460    
LIR 73    LIR 385    IR 461    
RIR 79    LIR 386    IR 462    
LIR 84    LIR 387    IR 467    
LIR 85    IR 389    IR 468    
LIR 86    IR 393    IR 469    
RIR 87    IR 394    IR 477    
LIR 87    IR 397    StB 2    
RIR 88    IR 398    StB 4    
LIR 94    IR 399    StB 7    
RIR 98    IR 400    StB 8    
RIR 118    IR 401    StB 9    
LIR 153    IR 402    StB 10    
IR 189    IR 403    StB 11    
IR 190    IR 404    StB 12    
RIR 207    IR 405    StB 13    
RIR 216    IR 408    StB 14    
 

 

Best,

Daniel

Prussian Cavalry DONE:

 

GdC        HR 5
GKR        HR 6
1.GDR        HR 7
1.GUR        HR 9
2.GDR        HR 10
3.GUR        HR 12
KR 2        HR 13
KR 4        HR 14
KR 5        HR 15
KR 6        HR 16
KR 7        HR 17
KR 8        UR 3
DR 1        UR 4
DR 2        UR 5
DR 5        UR 6
DR 7        UR 7
DR 8        UR 10
DR 9        UR 12
DR 10        UR 14
DR 12        UR 16
DR 13        JRzP 1
DR 14        JRzP 2
DR 15        JRzP 3
DR 16        JRzP 5
DR 17        JRzP 9
DR 18        JRzP 12
DR 19        JRzP 13
DR 22        
GDR 23        
 

Prussian Artillery DONE:

1.GFAR        FAR 56
1.GRFAR        FAR 57
2.GFAR        FAR 58
3.GFAR        RFAR 58
3.GRFAR        FAR 59
4.GFAR        FAR 60 
FAR 1        FAR 61
RFAR 1        RFAR 61
FAR 2        FAR 62
FAR 3        FAR 63
LFAR 3        RFAR 65
FAR 4        FAR 66
FAR 5        RFAR 66
FAR 7        FAR 67
RFAR 7        RFAR 67
FAR 8        RFAR 68
LFAR 8        FAR 72
FAR 9        FAR 74
RFAR 9        FAR 75
FAR 10        FAR 76
FAR 11        FAR 79
RFAR 12        FAR 80
FAR 14        FAR 81
RFAR 14        FAR 84
FAR 15        FAR 92
RFAR 15        FAR 95
FAR 16        FAR 99
FAR 17        FAR 100
FAR 18        FAR 108
FAR 19        FAR 183
RFAR 19        FAR 201
FAR 20        FAR 221
RFAR 20        FAR 229
FAR 21        FAR 241
FAR 22        FAR 269
FAR 23        FAR 270
FAR 24        FAR 280
FAR 25        FAR 406
RFAR 25        FAR 500
FAR 26        FußAR 3
FAR 30        FußAR 4
RFAR 33        FußAR 5
FAR 34        FußAR 7
FAR 35        FußAR 9
FAR 37        FußAR 11
FAR 38        FußAR 14
FAR 39        FußAR 16
FAR 40        FußAR 18
FAR 42        FußAR 22
FAR 43        FußAB 33
FAR 44        FußAB 35
FAR 45        FußAB 39
RFAR 45        FußAB 56
FAR 46        FußAB 75
FAR 47        
RFAR 48        
FAR 50        
RFAR 51        
FAR 53        
FAR 54        
FAR 55        
 

Engineers DONE:

 

GPB
PB 4
PB 7
PB 8
PB 11
PB 14
PB 29
 

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Hi Daniel,

here you will find for the IR117: http://digital.wlb-stuttgart.de/sammlungen/sammlungsliste/werksansicht/?no_cache=1&tx_dlf[id]=13560&tx_dlf[page]=1

 

For infanry you will find here informations about Regimental Histories, sometimes with a link to an online-book:

http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Infanterie_(WK1)

Best regards,

Jens

 

Artillerie, Pionier, etc... (incl. Bavarian ...): http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Militär/Formationsgeschichte/Deutschland/Alte_Armee/Regimenter

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On 18/10/2020 at 13:27, Mattyboy said:

Hi all, 

Not sure if you have this one? Lt dR Karl (?) Hertel :- 

https://digital.blb-karlsruhe.de/blbz/periodical/pageview/2480000?query=hansorden

Hertel, Karl Theodor
*25.4.1890 in Endingen, Baden
†14.10.1965 in Wiesbaden

He was wounded in 1914 as a Vfw.d.R. in RIR 40, in 1915 as a Lt.d.R. in LIR 11, and for a third time in 1918. He was promoted to Lt.d.R. in RIR 40 on 16.11.1914. His Rufname does appear to be Karl, but he is in the Zähringen Lion roll as "Theod. Karl", a Lt.d.R. of GR 110, at the time in RIR 51.

 

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Great stuff guys,

 

Hertel was indeed another unknown one,

Goll was awarded the HOH3X 08th November 1918, so just on the very last days of WW1. and the Monarchy in Germany.

 

Best,

Daniel

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Hi all, 

Here are two more names: Hptm von und zu Schachten, and Lt dR Paul Hommel. I presume the Lt Hertel mentioned just after Hptm Schachten is the same man we discussed earlier? 

https://digital.blb-karlsruhe.de/blbz/periodical/pageview/2023321 

https://digital.blb-karlsruhe.de/blbz/periodical/pageview/5800545 

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Matty, super, Hommel was another unknown.

Baden Guy, received as well a Zähringer Löwe knight 2nd class with swords.

 

v.u.z.Schachten - Ernst Georg Adolf, 1876-1942, served in FAR 50, as well a Baden guy.

 

Best,

Daniel

 

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Hi Daniel,

No problem at all. Actually I'm going to throw a spanner into the works now. I had assumed that the MWB entry (03/Sep/1918) for a 'Hptm Lieber' related to the later Generalleutnant Hans Lieber. But then I saw the attached death notice and now I'm not so sure.... 

 

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Tilgner, Louis Adolf Felix 
* 16.1.1881 in Breslau
Oberbuchwald was in the reporting area for Sprottau, so he was possibly the Vizewachtmeister Tilgner in the Res.Inf.Mun.Kol. 14 of the V. Reservekorps who was promoted to Lt.d.L.-Felda. I (Sprottau) on 14.1.1916. However, an HOH3X for field artillery support officer seems uncommon, so he may have been the Vizefeldwebel Tilgner promoted to Lt.d.L.-Inf. I (I Breslau) on 13.5.1918. That Tilgner, however, received the Saxe-Meiningen Medal for Merit in War in 1915, which may simply have been omitted from the death notice. 
 

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Nice work Dave. Here is a death notice from 1941 for Karl-Otto Splettstößer. There are many Kriegsstammrolle records for him on ancestry.co.uk, unfortunately I could not find one which mentioned the HOH3x. So it must be another late award. Also interesting for the gold wound badge. 

Splettstosser, Karl Otto.JPG

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