EK 1870 1870 EK1

[dante]

Welcome your thoughts on this, also value as it has been offered and tempted as a filler if not right, as ever thanks, Paul

[dante]

Welcome your thoughts on this, also value as it has been offered and tempted as a filler if not right, as ever thanks, Paul

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[dante]

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[Kev in Deva]

Any closer pictures of the rear hinge pin and clasp area??

Kevin in Deva.

Edited September 8, 2007 by Kev in Deva

[Alex K]

Hi dante, unfortunately I have my doubts, about it being period, the pin doesn't look right, and the frames look like a later product

regards

Alex

[dante]

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Thanks guys, value?

[Kev in Deva]

It might just be my eyes bur the rust looks to be too symetrical, all around the edges,

is it real or chemicaly applied??

Kevin in Deva.

[Biro]

Thanks guys, value?

Dante - this is not an original 1870 EK.

To a collector like yourself, it should have no value.

Marshall

[dante]

Dante - this is not an original 1870 EK.

To a collector like yourself, it should have no value.

Marshall

How right and how quickly we (I) become seduced with shiny things , thanks

[Stogieman]

Detlev Niemann had some nice examples of the Godet private-purchase 1870 EK1 in his weekly update. I suggest reviewing them and saving images as they are very difficult to find and study. In addition, Previtera's new edition of The Iron Time is invaluable as a reference for the Wagner 1870 EK1's.

[dante]

Detlev Niemann had some nice examples of the Godet private-purchase 1870 EK1 in his weekly update. I suggest reviewing them and saving images as they are very difficult to find and study. In addition, Previtera's new edition of The Iron Time is invaluable as a reference for the Wagner 1870 EK1's.

Stogieman, and all many thanks, Paul

[gregM]

This particular cross can be found in 1813, 1870 & 1914 configurations

both pin back and screwback and with various makers marks applied to them.

[Alex K]

perhaps someone could enlighten me, are these possibly "Latvian" fakes once again?

regards

Alex

[gregM]

perhaps someone could enlighten me, are these possibly "Latvian" fakes once again?

regards

Alex

Yes, they are making the rounds again.

Here are a couple more examples----

[Alex K]

Hi Greg, these are quite frightening and worry me as a collector. if looked at from a novices point of view they are quite convincing. And could be taken as the real thing with lots of money wasted. I have learned, particularly from this and other forums- fortunately to treat most if not all of early EK's with suspision. Fortunately with the exchange of info on forum sites we may, in the end advise and highlight such crap as the one posted and collectively learn to avoid the pitfalls which plague our hobby

regards

Alex

[dante]

Hi Greg, these are quite frightening and worry me as a collector. if looked at from a novices point of view they are quite convincing. And could be taken as the real thing with lots of money wasted. I have learned, particularly from this and other forums- fortunately to treat most if not all of early EK's with suspision. Fortunately with the exchange of info on forum sites we may, in the end advise and highlight such crap as the one posted and collectively learn to avoid the pitfalls which plague our hobby

regards

Alex

Must admit I was 70% in favour of it being wrong, but the price was not bad and I have got some nice stuff from the same source and Its alway wise to check,, for information the areas I have highlighted are not even and the area ringed is flaking, Thanks To all