orden_master Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Hello here is another medal of the Milosevic era, the medal for merit in the field of security and defence. I will post pics of the box, the award roll, the award document and of course of the medal.RegardsMilan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orden_master Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 the avers of the medal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orden_master Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 the reverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orden_master Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 and the award document Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Dear Milan,isn't that ribbon from an old YU-Medal from Tito's era ?Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orden_master Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share Posted September 13, 2007 Hallo Christiangood observation, it is the same ribbon as for the old medal for military virtue. regardsMilanDear Milan,isn't that ribbon from an old YU-Medal from Tito's era ?Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Hallo Christiangood observation, it is the same ribbon as for the old medal for military virtue. regardsMilanDear Milan,so, Yugoslavia during the (socialist) Milosevic-era didn't only use old dies, but also the old ribbons .In the pinned-section I made a posting about YU-Awards during the 4 Yugoslav-Wars of the 1990s: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?s=&showtop...st&p=159521In my opinion the "phaleristic-language" of these orders and medals is still communist in style and appearance.Best regards ChristianBTW: Do you have any access to the statutes and regulations of Yugoslav Awards from 1943 to 2000 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 That is not my field of collecting, but I find that the design of this medal is very nice. I also like the kind of paper work that goes with the medal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orden_master Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share Posted September 13, 2007 Good evening gentlemenyes you are absolutely right they used the dies and the ribbons, the only thing that lacked was the experince in craftmanship and manufactury of orders. See my next example how crude the work has be done. Medals from this time period are pretty OK (as seen). For the 43-2000 period should be no problem in having access to those papers, I will tell a friend of mine who arrived at Beograd just today to look what he can find.RegardsMilan Dear Milan,so, Yugoslavia during the (socialist) Milosevic-era didn't only use old dies, but also the old ribbons .In the pinned-section I made a posting about YU-Awards during the 4 Yugoslav-Wars of the 1990s: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?s=&showtop...st&p=159521In my opinion the "phaleristic-language" of these orders and medals is still communist in style and appearance.Best regards ChristianBTW: Do you have any access to the statutes and regulations of Yugoslav Awards from 1943 to 2000 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orden_master Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share Posted September 13, 2007 Here we go !This is the order for merit in the field of security and defence, 1st grade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orden_master Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share Posted September 13, 2007 the according box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orden_master Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share Posted September 13, 2007 The avers and reverse side of the orderChristian, look at the crude work with the old dies from the order for military merit 45-91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orden_master Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share Posted September 13, 2007 and finally the awarding document for a colonel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Another one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Dear Milan,the cases & rolls are very fine done and really beautiful, but the orders look like very bad fakes of the old communist ones .Why did they produce that bad quality - maybe they lost IKOM-Zagreb ?Best regards ChristianBTW: Does any of the numerous ex-YU-states still use the old IKOM-dies ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orden_master Posted September 14, 2007 Author Share Posted September 14, 2007 Good evening ChristianI have absolutely the same opinion as you regarding the bad quality, it is a pitty to look at those orders, and I think that you have the right reason for this. Probably the dies have been saved from Zagreb but the know how of manufactury remained with the persons there. During the former periods all enamel work was done by IKOM in Belgrade was only the minting part of coins and medals. RegardsMilanDear Milan,the cases & rolls are very fine done and really beautiful, but the orders look like very bad fakes of the old communist ones .Why did they produce that bad quality - maybe they lost IKOM-Zagreb ?Best regards ChristianBTW: Does any of the numerous ex-YU-states still use the old IKOM-dies ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orden_master Posted September 14, 2007 Author Share Posted September 14, 2007 Helloit would be nice to have the second class order too !!! Is there anybody having this one in his collection so post the pictures PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RegardsMilanAnother one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatoly13 Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 2 nd class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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