joe campbell Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 i believe this is called a knopfloch. please correct me if i am wrong.silver wound mini overcombatants swords overprussian EK ribbon overbraunschweiger kriegsverdienst kreuz ribbon overoldenberg Freidrich august kreuz overbremen hanseatenkreuz ribbon overehrenkreuz combatant ribbon overhessen kriegehrenzeichen overa button.this is neat as five of the six ribbons are eitherEK or states' EK equivalents.enjoy!joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Joe, You are correct in that this is a knopfloch and you have correctly identified the ribbons. I have seen a number of these little guys over the years and I must say that this is the first one with the wound badge over the swords.Very, very nice - congratulations!Best wishes,Wild Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Are they really so rare (with the wound badge over the swords)...? I have this one in my collection :Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian L Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 i would say, that the last ribbon is for the turkish iron halfmoon (because its behind the hindenburg cross and there is no other award from hessen)christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe campbell Posted September 4, 2005 Author Share Posted September 4, 2005 christian-that is a most interesting thought.i will look up the turkish war service ribbon andrespond.it would make sense that if hessen, it would come in front ofthe 1934 ehrenkreuzlare there any ricks in the house?joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Christian is right-- from the combination and position it must be the Turkish War Medal star. There is nothing else Hessian for this to have been their Long Service awards ribbon, which it was. The Hessian War Effort Medal is usually "pinker' and narrower white stripes.That is an extremely nice multi-states combination and hard to find a REAL one like this with that many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe campbell Posted September 4, 2005 Author Share Posted September 4, 2005 con mucho gustos, hombres!!duly noted and appreciated.joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Hi Joe,I must say that I think that I really blew it on this one with regard to that (last) ribbon identification. I simply had not considered a foreign award out there... shame on me.Christophe - I have been looking at, and occasionally picking up, knopflochs for over twenty years. While I have a number of miniatures, during that time I have gotten only four knopflochs. Yet, as I said before, I have never noticed any with the wound badge/swords attachment. Then consider - anybody who could make a dumb mistake like I did on the ribbons (above) could be wrong on just about anything.Best wishes,Wild Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe campbell Posted September 6, 2005 Author Share Posted September 6, 2005 WC-not to worry!the tipoff for me became the position of the ribbon,which i obviously hadn't thought of. i was lookingat color/pattern rather than position.thanks for your responses!joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Christophe - I have been looking at, and occasionally picking up, knopflochs for over twenty years. While I have a number of miniatures, during that time I have gotten only four knopflochs. Yet, as I said before, I have never noticed any with the wound badge/swords attachment. Then consider - anybody who could make a dumb mistake like I did on the ribbons (above) could be wrong on just about anything.Wild Card←No pb, I am really here as a beginner in German Imperial. My question is really one for learning... Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 A random sample of civilian lapel wear awards/ribbons[attachmentid=10034][attachmentid=10036][attachmentid=10037] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian L Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 they are so nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!only the master can have such nice ones!would it be possible to see a pic of the reverse of the w?rttemberg pin, the rosette and the enamel one? PLEASEEEEEE christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 [attachmentid=10058]I got this W?rttemberg mini ribbon bar stickpin from Gerd! The "French" style rosettes just have buttons on the back, so I don't have scans of them.[attachmentid=10061][attachmentid=10060] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian L Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 on the enamel one its not only quality work - its ART and CRAFTSMENSHIP!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerd Becker Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Yes, also like the enamel ribbon bar very much Nice assortment of ribbons in this thread Christophe, to answer your question, these are not common, to say at least. Especially on mini-groups i haven?t seen them too often.Gerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Hi Rick -I am really impressed by your display! It is an excellent example of the variety and workmanship of these little guys. I think that these pieces, along with their close relatives, miniatures, are an under appreciated area of collecting -which is fine by me.Thank you for sharing this material with us.Best wishes,Wild Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Yes, also like the enamel ribbon bar very much Nice assortment of ribbons in this thread Christophe, to answer your question, these are not common, to say at least. Especially on mini-groups i haven?t seen them too often.Gerd←Thanks Gerd for the precision. Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hunter Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Very nice items guys. My entire buttonhole collection numbers three! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Y Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Speaking of enamel, here's my favorite. a '66-'70/'71 one piece from Kaiserlich Porzellan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerd Becker Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Wonderful little piece, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Is that all spun out in one piece, Tom? How did they DO that???? What a little jewel!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Y Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Is that all spun out in one piece, Tom? How did they DO that???? What a little jewel!!! ←It's actually 2 pieces, probably press molded, and slipped together ( joined with liquid porcelain before firing) It was probably first fired at high temperature, painted, and refired at a much lower temp, as red is a low-fire pigment. It's quite large, over 1 1/4 in. wide, and was probably hard to get into a buttonhole, but couldn't possibly fall out as the shank of the Knopf is buttonhole width. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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