Deciphering script

[Dave Danner]

Can anyone help with the script below? It looks like "Bataillons Kom ___ Rgts". Is that a number?

[Ulsterman]

Not 'Battalion" but maybe "kom" (at least i don't think so)-but I think it says 451 regt. The "something" kom.panie, regt 451?

What's the doc?

Edited October 18, 2007 by Ulsterman

[Dave Danner]

It's from the award rolls of Schwarzburg-Sondershausen. He was a major named Corsep, so Bataillons-Komm(andeur) would fit. I think in script the "m" with the little line above means "mm", so probably "Komm", not "Kom" as I originally wrote.

IR 451 was a Brandenburg regiment. Corsep was a recalled officer, not active in 1914. All the Ehrenrangliste has is his pre-war unit, IR 144 (a Lorraine unit), and his last wartime unit, LIR 387 (a Hannover and Braunschweig regiment). So none of the units show a direct connection to Sondershausen, though he may have been a citizen of the principality.

[Ulsterman]

hmmm... the top word is difficult and will require someone better at sutterlein than myself, but that word is : "??sorillou?"...with each "?" denoting a letter I don't recognize.....hmmmmmm.....

[rast]

Definitely: "Bataillons Komm."

Now best guess: "des I."

Definitely: "Rgts"

Missing would be the regimental number.

[speedytop]

Hi,

it is written:

Bataillons-Kom(mandeur) des 1. Rgts

I can find Corsep

1890 Leutnant in the "3. Th?ringisches Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 71" (Schwarzburg-Sondershausen)

1901 Hauptmann in the "3. Th?ringisches Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 71"

1907 Hauptmann in the "3. Th?ringisches Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 71"

1910 Major in the "3. Th?ringisches Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 71", in the regimental staff.

not 1913

1914 (WW I reactivated) Oberstleutnant in the "5. Lothringisches Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 144", at the end of the war in the "LIR 387" (Landwehr-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 387)

None of these numbers fits.

Regards

Uwe

[Dave Danner]

According to Busche, on mobilization in 1914, Corsep became commander of I. Bataillon/Landwehr-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 71.

The entry in the roll immediately above Corsep is for Oberstleutnant Hofmann, the commander of LIR 71. Maybe someone meant to write "desgl." regiment?

[rast]

That would explain it, the "1" thus should be an "s", the text reading: "Bataillons Komm[andeur] dess[elben] Rgts".

[speedytop]

Hi rast,

"That would explain it, the "1" thus should be an "s", the text reading: "Bataillons Komm[andeur] dess[elben] Rgts"

Perfekt!

Uwe

[Dave Danner]

Thanks to all for your assistance. No doubt I will come across more text to decipher. Sometimes the rolls are quite clear and legible, other times the text is not very easy to read.

[Chris Boonzaier]

With some imagination it could be a 381 or 387 ?

[speedytop]

Hi Chris,

it is complete decoded by rast.

That is: "dess." with it is meant "desselben", that is (complete) in English:

bataillon commander in the same regiment (such as my regimental commander wrote before)

"The entry in the roll immediately above Corsep is for Oberstleutnant Hofmann, the commander of LIR 71."

Regards

Uwe

[Dave Danner]

OK, next one. This is the entry for a Major d.L. Alfred Poirier. It looks like Waffen- u. Munitions____________ Amt in Berlin. The missing part looks like it ends "attungs", but the first few letters ("be-" something?) throw me.

[Dave Danner]

And one more:

Maj. z.D. Karl Maron from Erfurt. It appears to be "Haupt______amt Erfurt". Any ideas?

[Dave Danner]

On the second, maybe "Hauptmeldeamt"?

[speedytop]

Post 13: Waffen- und Munitions-Beschaffungsamt in Berlin (Kriegsamt Berlin)

Post 14: Hauptmeldeamt Erfurt (Bezirkskommando Erfurt)

Regards

Uwe

[Dave Danner]

Post 13: Waffen- und Munitions-Beschaffungsamt in Berlin (Kriegsamt Berlin)

Post 14: Hauptmeldeamt Erfurt (Bezirkskommando Erfurt)

Regards

Uwe

Thanks, Uwe!

[Dave Danner]

A few more:

I can't make out the first name on Lt.d.R. Frank's entry here. Any guesses?

[Dave Danner]

Can't make out the top line at all. This is for Stabsarzt Dr. M?nnich.

[Dave Danner]

This is for Oberlt. Wolfgang von Schierholz. I think it is "Kommandeur der Res-Fahrpark-Kol. 84, Res. Trainabt. 51". Sound right?

[Dave Danner]

The first word I can't make out. The rest is "___ -Stabsarzt im Hauptquartier Sr. Majest?t des Kaisers".

[Dave Danner]

This is Lt.d.R. Franz Wald's entry. I think it is "Adjutant der Etappen-Insp. Gent". Can anyone confirm?

[David M]

Can confirm the last one, dunno about the first one though The first one doesnt say Stabsarzt but Stabswache

Edited October 25, 2007 by David M

[Dave Danner]

Can confirm the last one, dunno about the first one though The first one doesnt say Stabsarzt but Stabswache

Thanks for Stabswache. I still can't figure out the first part.

In post #19 for Stabsarzt Dr. M?nnich, I figured it out to be "Sanit?tskomp."

In post #20 for Oberlt. Wolfgang von Schierholz, what I wrote as "Fahrpark" should be "Fuhrpark", I think.

[Dave Danner]

Another one: for Lt. d.R. Albert Grey (very German-sounding name!)

It appears to say: "von der Train-Abtl. 19, bei der _____. Fuhrp.kol. 218 der Etappen-Inspektion 11"

The missing part looks like "Magaz." Does that make sense with a Fuhrparkkolonne?