Prinz Alfons Erinnerungsabzeichen

[VtwinVince]

Gentlemen,

I recently acquired this decoration from another member, and have little information on it. If anyone can shed some light on award numbers, qualifications for award etc. it would be appreciated.

[VtwinVince]

This decoration takes the form of a metal cypher with the Bavarian crown and a wreath, overlaid on a blue and white ribbon, to be worn as a Schnalle, or bar. The award document dates to 1929. I'm assuming this would have been given out on the discretion of the prince to various lackeys, but that's my speculation.

[Ulsterman]

Yup-do a quick search-there's a thread on these. I think RR posted an award to a hotel keeper. Purportedly they were often given as "shooting club awards", especially to members of the Prinz Alfons Shooting Club, which I think is still in existence today.

Often also given to Bavarian vets with monarchist political convictions.

Edited December 28, 2008 by Ulsterman

[Kev in Deva]

Here is my recently acquired piece:

Front.

Kevin in Deva

[Kev in Deva]

Reverse:

Maker Marked: M H E I N L O T H.

Kevin in Deva.

[student]

I want to show one,I want to sell or change.

student

[student]

I want to show one,I want to sell or change.

student

Front.

Edited October 26, 2007 by student

[VtwinVince]

Student, yours is interesting in that it is from the same maker as mine, but the wreath device on yours is bigger, or the ribbon is narrower.

[nesredep]

Hello!

Never seen this before,thanks for sharing.Interesting item.

Regards

Nesredep

[Kev in Deva]

Hallo Gents

I think its best to measure this item, so as to gather information on

possible variations. The measurements on mine are:

Silver Wreath;

Height: 42mm

Wide: 45mm

Ribbon width: 33mm.

Maker Mark: "M.HEINLOTH" interestingly enough the upper part of the letter "E"

is not complete, and the lower right leg of the "H" is incomplete!!!

Kevin in Deva.

[Kev in Deva]

And then there is the "Gold" version.

Kevin in Deva.

[VtwinVince]

Kevin, the measurements of my silver example coincide exactly with yours.

[student]

Hallo Gents

I think its best to measure this item, so as to gather information on

possible variations. The measurements on mine are:

Silver Wreath;

Height: 42mm

Wide: 45mm

Ribbon width: 33mm.

Hello Gents,

Mine "Prinz Alfons" has the same mesurements.

student

[jshorter]

So, this is a shooting award, or a badge for a royal shooting club then?

Thanks!

Jason

[VtwinVince]

Jason, I think it was given to persons deemed worthy by Prinz Alfons, with no particular award criterion.

[Martin Burr]

I have seen these both in "silver" and "gold" with 5 different ribbon colours. All that have a maker mark have M.Heinloth, though have also seen others marked just DRGM, which i believe was the German equivalent of patent pending. There still seems to be doubt as to whether they were shooting badges, or the just the Prince's own personal "vanity" award given to whoever he chose for any reason,

[speedytop]

Hi,

"... with no particular award criterion"

"There still seems to be doubt as to whether they were shooting badges, or the just the Prince's own personal "vanity" award given to whoever he chose for any reason"

The correct name is Prinz-Alfons-Erinnerungszeichen (not ...Erinnerungsabzeichen)

There are no real doubts. They were given for shooting merits, for expertly hunting, fostering and care and for "patriotic merits".

The document was free, but one had to pay the badge.

Uwe

[Freiwillige]

Please have a look here, maybe that one could help: http://antique-photos.com/en/awardsdatabase/weimarawards/98-prince-alfons-commemorative-badge.html