Jacques Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 I open this thread and I hope that you'll share yours He is wearing a spanish cross in bronze with swords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted September 10, 2005 Author Share Posted September 10, 2005 This sailor is wearing the spanish cross in bronze with no swords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted September 10, 2005 Author Share Posted September 10, 2005 This one was to the Marine Schule Weserm?nde. he was awarded the spanish cross in bronze with swords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted September 10, 2005 Author Share Posted September 10, 2005 Another one from the same NCO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 It is interesting to note that NONE of them are wearing their Spanish campaign medal ribbon!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gregory Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Are the dates of the photos known?Were they taken before the campaign ribbons were issued? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted September 10, 2005 Author Share Posted September 10, 2005 May be the KM members were not awarded the campaign medal. Panzerpionier could help us .jacques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Kapit?nleutnant Hermann Laufs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Oberleutnant (Ing)Schenke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted September 11, 2005 Author Share Posted September 11, 2005 Thank you Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted September 11, 2005 Author Share Posted September 11, 2005 He has a beautiful sword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted September 11, 2005 Author Share Posted September 11, 2005 A beautiful one, one of my prefered. I think he was awarded the spanish cross in gold. as he wear the "cruz de guerra" he must have participated to a successful action. As he wears the observer badge, I suppose he served to the AS/88. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gregory Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Was it common for naval flyers to receive Luftwaffe badges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzerpionier Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 (edited) May be the KM members were not awarded the campaign medal. Panzerpionier could help us .jacques←First of all, KM personnel that served in Spanish waters received the SK without swords. On the other hand, according to SK regulations KM personnel that served in Spanish waters and were involved in some actions received the SK with swords:-Air raid on Ibiza (29th May, 1937)-Bombardment of Almeria (31st May, 1937).-Air bombing of Palma.The mentioned KM personnel was not considered "officially" as combatants by Spanish government, and they did not receive Spanish decorations.On the other hand, some KM members actually fought in the SCW as members of Nationalist units and therefore were eligible for both SK with swords and Spanish decorations:-Technicians, instructors and military advisors. One of them (Jurgen Jensen) was killed in the sinking of the Nationalist cruiser "Baleares".-AS/88 naval personnel, mainly observers. Naval observers were better than those from land-based units for ship recognition.Hope this helpBest regards Edited September 11, 2005 by Panzerpionier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Ah! I always thought that any German naval personnel "with swords" got the combatant Spanish campaign medal, while the majority who received "without swords" got the non-front line Spanish campaign medal.Thanks!This helps us with German same eagles for army AND navy long service award bars, doesn't it, Jacques? Now we know that those straight winged eagles must be for ARMY personnel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzerpionier Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Ah! I always thought that any German naval personnel "with swords" got the combatant Spanish campaign medal, while the majority who received "without swords" got the non-front line Spanish campaign medal.Thanks!This helps us with German same eagles for army AND navy long service award bars, doesn't it, Jacques? Now we know that those straight winged eagles must be for ARMY personnel!←Please note that I meant that KM personnel that served in Spanish waters and received either SK with or without swords were not entitled for ANY Spanish medal. Of course, some exceptions could happen, i.e. a KM ship rescueing Spanish Nationalist navy shipwrecked sailors and the like... in those cases probably the commander of the KM ship and some officers would receive the Spanish white naval cross.The KM personnel who served in Nationalist units were a different case and they received Spanish decorations.On the other hand, I have never seern a German ribbon bar with non-combatant Spanish Campaing medal (green borders).Best regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted September 16, 2005 Author Share Posted September 16, 2005 another with SC with swords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted September 17, 2005 Author Share Posted September 17, 2005 Another interesting observer , AS/88 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Flying SPANGE ... and what appears to be the Reiterabzeichen next to his Luftwaffe observer badge!!!!!No name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gregory Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Was it usual for Kriegsmarine flyers to receive Luftwaffe qualification awards and flying clasps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Was it usual for Kriegsmarine flyers to receive Luftwaffe qualification awards and flying clasps?←I had a non spanish grup to a Navy Lt attached as an Observer to a flying unit. They seem to all have been observers.he had EK2 and one, observer badge and the three clasps. The rank was "Leutnant (M)" with the M for Marine.At the end of the war he was training for Uboots and in the Bundeswehr he was in the panzer branch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted September 17, 2005 Author Share Posted September 17, 2005 Was it usual for Kriegsmarine flyers to receive Luftwaffe qualification awards and flying clasps?←For those who served on Hydravions and boat embarqued aircrafts, I suppose . Not so many . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted September 17, 2005 Author Share Posted September 17, 2005 A new one with spanish cross in bronze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted September 18, 2005 Author Share Posted September 18, 2005 An officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted September 18, 2005 Author Share Posted September 18, 2005 another nice pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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