Mervyn Mitton Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 This has been a very interesting thread - do any other members have old picture cards of ships ? Mervyn
Stuka f Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 Finally found one! The best one I have got for the momment! Measuring 28/94 cm.
peter monahan Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Late to the fair here, but one of the things which shows up very commonly in regimental and other histories of WWI Canadians are photos of the various 'troopers' which took the boys over and brought them home. A half dozen names come to mind at once, so I suspect the total is several dozen, most of which survived the war and whose photos are probably easy enough to find, but I wonder how hard it would be to find a post card for each. I actually snaffled an egg cup out of a junk pile which was silver plated and named to a royal Mail ship which did troop carrying in WWII and if one were interested I suspect such souvenirs are not uncommon and probably not at all expensive, though of course the squaddies would not have had access to such swank kit during their voyages!
Stuka f Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 The Hamburg America Lines silver plated stuff are generaly the most expensive one's, mostly sold on militarias sites, for Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler silverware because of the LAH cypher marking they usualy carry. |<ris
Jock Auld Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Very interesting thread, I see a lot of these sort of post cards all the time but don't really pay much attention as it's not my bag. I pick them up now if they are inexpensive. Cheers.
Stuka f Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Please do! anything related to Belgian Congo and Antwerp are in my field of intrest. |<ris
Mervyn Mitton Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 The early Congo ones are now quite valuable. I have noticed that the average price of a non-specialised photo card seems to be in the 5 pounds frame. Apart from the obviously sought after Militaria cards , ones of early vehicles and street scenes always seem popular. Please add any you come across. Mervyn
mickey Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 hi all I just thought I would add this silver and tortoise shell pot with a picture of the new Zealand shipping company ship ss rotorua on the lid also a post card of the ship its story shows what dangers merchant shipping faced in 1940 the ship was subject to 15 torpedo attacks on one voyage whilst in the atlantic damaged it was repaired in panama on a later convoy (hx92) in 1940 outward bound to Australia the convoy was attacked by a wolfpack and lost 15 ships the ss rotorua had 75 feet of a stabilizer blown off and again was repaired in panama homeward bound in December 1940 it was struck by a torpedo fired by u96 and sank with the loss of 21 lives including the captain and convoy commander rear admiral fitzgerald as a footnote the previous ship of this name was sunk in the English channel in 1917 by uc17
Mervyn Mitton Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 Mickey - this is a rare item. The ship shown is the one sunk in 1917 - the silver 'dish' , with the same earlier picture is actually Hallmarked silver for London 1904. This is probably the launch date ? Try a bottle in the dish - if it fits then this is a table bottle holder. Hard to tell size from the picture. There are many collectors of ship memorabilia and with the history of this one you might be surprised. Try the bottle and let's see a picture if it fits. Mervyn
christerd Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 Wow , I can only agree with Merwyn Great Item Mickey ! Christer
mickey Posted February 15, 2015 Posted February 15, 2015 many thanks guys hi mervyn thanks for the info I think the silver ship on the lid may have been added at a later date as both rotorua named ships were launched in 1910 and 1911 the later ship was originally called the Shropshire and was purchased in the 1930s by the nz shipping company from a british shipping company I have added a picture of the rotorua sunk in 1917 note only 2 masts compared to the 5 on the ship sunk in 1940 the dish is quite small, the ship on the lid has 5 masts thanks for the information looking into the history of these new Zealand ships has been very interesting
christerd Posted February 15, 2015 Posted February 15, 2015 A new ship in the long list.... S/S Ancona was built in 1908 in the Belfast wharf , workman , Clark & Co Ltd. She was owned by a Italian company and travelled between New York and Naples . A quite beautiful ship at 8210 grt . 8th of November 1918 she was sailing from Messina to New York when the submarine SM U-38 under the command of Kapitänleutnant Max Valentiner torpedo her and she sank with the lost of almost 200 lives. Most of the people ombord was Greek and Italian emigrants going to the US. Some sources say there was 507 ombord other states 446 (including 163 crew) 1 US passanger survived the sinking Dr Cecil Grid. This led to a diplomatic crise since 9 or 11 ( numbers unclear) US citizens died in the sinking and furthermore Germany was not at war with italy in this time and the sub was sailing under Austria-Hungary flag in spite it was aGerman Submarine. Max Valentiner who was the highest ranking U-boat Ace during WW1 , was branded as awar criminal by the allies , for fifteen different incidents during the war. He managed to stay out of prison and joined the Kriegsmarine in WW2 , in 1949 he died by a lung disease maybe due to the toxic wapours he inhaled from the Uboat engines during first world war. He citims got their revenge in a strange way ....
Stuka f Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 A small modern desk model, probably monted on to something originaly....
Mervyn Mitton Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Stuka - is it plastic or metal. Strange item - the first time I have seen a model of a container ship. Mervyn Christerd - thankyou for that background to the Anconia. I remember reading about her - however, over time we forget the details. Did Valentiner receive any imprisonment after WW1 ? Mervyn
Stuka f Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Hey Mervyn, it is in metal. You see them generaly in offices related to the specific compagny. cheers |<ris
christerd Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Stuka - is it plastic or metal. Strange item - the first time I have seen a model of a container ship. Mervyn Christerd - thankyou for that background to the Anconia. I remember reading about her - however, over time we forget the details. Did Valentiner receive any imprisonment after WW1 ? Mervyn Hi Mervyn , No Valentiner managed to keep out of prison and after 1933 he was safe in Germany. He survived WW2 but I suppose no one cared about hes eventually first world war crimes then , they had new ones to think about . And here he is with a lot of awards !
Stuka f Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Not sure if the ship in this small ashtray realy existed..... At the back it says "keep sake from Belgium"; yes, it says "sake" not safe. Feel free to comment, because it is a small mystery to me ....
Stuka f Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Here is a other ship's plan; the Willem Ruys. Better know to most as the Achille Lauro. The name it got when it was sold in the early 60 ties.
Stuka f Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 The plan came with a booklet, telling all details of its construction etc...
Stuka f Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys......
Mervyn Mitton Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Stuka - isn't the Achille Lauro the ship that sank off the South African coast a few years ago - or, am I getting it mixed-up ?If it is the one I am thinking of , the entire crew - captain leading them - took to the boats and left all the passengers to fightfor their lives.Keep safe or keep sake. In English a keep sake is something you buy or, are given , to remind you of a place , person or event. Mervyn
Stuka f Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 I had to google it Mervyn, it sunk indeed on his way to SA, but at the coast of Somalia....All I remembered about the A.Lauro was the hijacking. Thanks for the "keep sake" explanation, it helps! ;-) cheers|<ris
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