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Looking for a documented & researched Lenin-screwback (military!) + a documented & researched Nevsky type 2 (maybe both in a group :love: ) you will have the choice: Either a well-preserved second-hand Porsche, or these two items ;) .

A WWII (military) Lenin would be just fine. I don't need a screwback! :)

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Dear Bryan,

you have an excellent YU-collection - much better, than my own one :love::cheers: .

Looking for a documented & researched Lenin-screwback (military!) + a documented & researched Nevsky type 2 (maybe both in a group :love: ) you will have the choice: Either a well-preserved second-hand Porsche, or these two items ;) .

But the FoN - even documented ones - is still rather moderate priced and that order IS a beauty :D .

Best regards :beer:

BTW: I have neither a Porsche, nor a Lenin-screwback :( .

As you correctly suposse...the hammer with thw RBO2, goes to....2400USD!!!, the winning bidder has only a feedback of 26...a newcomer!

Miguel

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As you correctly suposse...the hammer with thw RBO2, goes to....2400USD!!!, the winning bidder has only a feedback of 26...a newcomer!

Miguel

Dear Miguel,

many thanks for your information :cheers: .

It happened, as I told you in my PM ;) .

Maybe that newcomer is one of the Russian collectors :unsure: ?

Capitalism still works (at least somehow) and nothing is free :P .

Best regards :beer:

Christian

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Hi all,

Of late I'm even seeing one of the Ebay sellers from Estonia offering Order and medal docs and some ID docs (BLANK!!!! :speechless1: ) for exhorbitant prices. Here are some examples:

http://cgi.ebay.com/BLANK-ORDER-OF-PATRIOT...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/BLANK-SOVIET-MEDAL-BOO...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/BLANK-SOVIET-MEDAL-BOO...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/BLANK-SOVIET-MEDAL-BOO...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/BLANK-SOVIET-MEDAL-BOO...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/BLANK-BELGRADE-SOVIET-...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/BLANK-SERVICE-SOVIET-I...1QQcmdZViewItem

As far as I know these docs are all common as dirt and there are who knows how many millions of each of them out there. I pity the poor sod who pays this on any of these. :o

As far as alot of this goes (Orders, medals, badges, etc.) a big part of it is the old supply and demand I'm sure. Russia won't let more out so what we have is pretty much what is available from here on out. But sure that's been discussed tons of times already.

Another part of this is sheer unadulterated GREED! Just like folks on Ebay and the other auctions charging three or four times what shipping actually is to get even more money. Even if it's an extra .10 to .50 cents on insurance, etc., it all adds up very quickly. The ones I mind are folks who charge say $12 to $15 (within the U.S.) for a small item like a medal (not heavy at all) and it's for basic standard shipping. No insurance, no extras... just stick it in an envelope or package for a couple of bucks and out it goes. And they laugh all the way to the bank.

And then there's the folks who want to complain about Paypal. Too expensive... too many fees. They want money orders. And of course the money orders cost, must be paid for in cash, so neccesitate running to the bank, then the Post Office, filling out tons of stuff and shipping it out.

I only wish I had what I've spent in unnecessary shipping over the last fifteen years as I could then afford to buy a high end Soviet Order. It's nuts! And it's only going to get worse across the board I fear.

As far as collecting any militaria or pretty much anything else for that matter I've had to be a bottom feeder for the most part for a long time. I've been blessed and gotten some terrific deals (yes, mostly on Ebay) over time. I just take it that it makes it more of a challenge. I just won an Ebay auction for an 85 type OGPW 1st class for $19.99. I lucked out as no one else bid. That doesn't happen very often anymore, even on the 85's which I'm assuming most Soviet collectors still feel are junk. But when prices for the pre 85's tend to generally go up into the $100 plus range anymore there are many of us who simply can't afford anything else. I especially try to grab the 1st's when I can, the lower the numbers the better. But with all the rest the 85's have jumped and I'm sure will continue to do so.

As with most of us I'm very happy to have gotten in when I did and get what I could before things took off. Sadly, I will probably never be able to get any of the higher end stuff from this point forward. I especially regret that when it comes to the Order of Friendship. I regret not getting one from Alexei many many moons ago. I'm glad I managed to at least get the basic Labor Orders, an October Revolution, a Red Banner and a few Orders of Glory when the getting was good. I can only pray I'm able to get a few more Red Stars and OGPW of any type, 1st or 2nd before it all ends. Then I'll move on to researching almost exclusively.

Dan :cheers:

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Erik,

This is one of the rarest variations of the OPW 2nd class. Still, that is a lot of money :speechless:

Marc

Yes, it is rare but like You said, that is a lot of money. I would rather have 10 ordinary orders than one rare variation. But then I'm not a pronounced variation collector. I guess I don't know the thrill it gives to find one of these rare variations. It sure is nice but not that nice! :speechless1:

Erik

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The Order of the Red Banner of Labor is now going for between 150 and 250 on Ebay!! These cannot even be researched. I say buy up all the Order of the Badge of Honors while you can! I remember a few years ago, Orders of the Red Star stilling unsold for 5 dollars!!! IT makes me feel kinda ill what they are going for now. There were only four million of these rare orders awarded.

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Yes, it is rare but like You said, that is a lot of money. I would rather have 10 ordinary orders than one rare variation. But then I'm not a pronounced variation collector. I guess I don't know the thrill it gives to find one of these rare variations. It sure is nice but not that nice! :speechless1:

Erik

Erik,

The buyer is one of the leading researcher and collector in the field of Soviet screwback orders. I would tend to think that he knows what he is doing :rolleyes:

Marc

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Erik,

The buyer is one of the leading researcher and collector in the field of Soviet screwback orders. I would tend to think that he knows what he is doing :rolleyes:

Marc

Indeed, OMSA #7648

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Dream on Igor! :shame:

Gentlemen,

Igor asks - and gets :jumping: - these prices for such rare items for quite a long time. Well, that's the economy of the markete: supply & demand ;) .

The hughe increase in the asked price for an (unissued) Motherland 2cl is interesting: http://www.collectrussia.com/DISPITEM.HTM?ITEM=19426 . 6.5 k USD are no peanuts, but it's a rare (less than 3.000 produced) order and it is even much more rare, to get an authentic & original one. I am happy, to have 2 items of Motherland 2cl: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=25540 (please scroll down to the better scans).

Best regards :beer:

Christian

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