buellmeister Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 (edited) Gentlemen, I'm happy to report that I have just purchased this specimen which is a rare one for me. It is a wide framed, "muffin crowned", EKII with an early 1939 Spange. The maker mark appears to be a "Y" and at one point it looks as though it had another mark which I unfortunately can't make out. I haven't tried to view the maker mark on the reverse of the Spange for I want to take my time in hopes of not breaking one of the attachment prongs. Like I mentioned before, it is the first of it's kind to adorn my medal case. Your comments are always appreciated. Sorry for the blurry pictures. I'm at the point that I may have to put my already antiquated Sony Mavica out to pasture....Regards,Joel Edited April 17, 2008 by buellmeister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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buellmeister Posted April 18, 2008 Author Share Posted April 18, 2008 "All Quiet on the Western Front" on this one... LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Were the spanges awarded like that(on the complete 1914 EK2 medal set)? Can you please post a closeup of the reverse of the medal ribbon. I look forward to hearing from the EK specialists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregM Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Better pictures would really help but I like the cross. I am not sureabout the spange. Even with great pictures I have a tough time tellinga good one from a bad one. The spangen were awarded seperately.The cross in ww1 the spange in ww2. However I would bet that areplacement cross and spange could probably be orderd as a privatepurchase item. I have no proof of this but it would just make sence.I really like these combinations. Here is one of mine------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buellmeister Posted April 18, 2008 Author Share Posted April 18, 2008 Paul, No problem. What you are probably used to seeing is the spange boxed with the ribbon before it is attached to the EK. It is pushed through the suspension ring on one side then sewn together on the back. Other than the additional blue thread re-enforcing the back of the ribbon, the prongs are slightly bent due to my curiousity if it is maker marked or not. The answer is, it isn't. Most weren't as I'm told. Thank you for any additional information anyone can provide me.Regards,Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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buellmeister Posted April 18, 2008 Author Share Posted April 18, 2008 Here are some close-ups of the Spange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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buellmeister Posted April 18, 2008 Author Share Posted April 18, 2008 (edited) Greg, If you handled this piece you'd see that there isn't any question that the Spange has been attached to this Cross for a very long time. My Camera is fading fast and the lighting is terrible as well on my desk... I guess I'll have to hold off on a couple of purchases and get a new camera.. Edited April 18, 2008 by buellmeister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe campbell Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 kind of a minefield, for sure,but i share your enthusiasm for this set up.having broken one of those prongs on thereverse several years ago, please acceptmy advice to leave them alone!!i thonk you've done well!joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buellmeister Posted April 20, 2008 Author Share Posted April 20, 2008 reverse several years ago, please acceptmy advice to leave them alone!!Definately will heed your advice. Thank you Joe! Regards,Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buellmeister Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 (edited) Gents, After carefully and I caution very careful inspection there appears to be an "L/11" stamped on the reverse of the Spange. I have inspected the piece once more and it passes the smell test (though not a conclusive test I may add) and the Spange definately has been attached to the ribbon for a very long time. I have purchased this piece from a reliable source and I just want to know that all is well with authenticity. I have noticed the second "9" is a little different that the first. However, I have noticed that it seems to be common for period made Spanges from the firm of J.E. Hammer and possibly others as witnessed with the maker mark. All in the know please put my mind at ease. Lastly, The blue thread on the reverse is a re-enforcement to the black thread which is very brittle and is still holding the ribbon together.Regards,Joel Edited April 23, 2008 by buellmeister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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