christerd Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Great Orders Bolgarin!!! I really love theese Orders, and I have one question about Bulgarian orders a little bit off topic maybe, The Orderof Labor 1st type on trifold ribbon do you have any info about how many where awarded and for how long? I have seen 1st type orders and doc awarded in 1959? isn?t that late for this type? Best Regards from one of the few Bulgarian award collectors in sweden? Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 (edited) Hi Christer.Very interesting information about possible exist of such document 1-t type which was dated to 1959...... On my opinion orders of 1 type was awarded till the middle of 50-th.....Maybe i mistake, and we will opened new information about bulgarian socialistik award system.....Is it possible to see scan of it? Edited April 23, 2008 by bolgarin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted April 24, 2008 Author Share Posted April 24, 2008 Hi Bolgarin Sorry to say I didn?t save a image, it was for sale on Ebay and the seller said that he had bought the order and book from the orginal recipeint. But I wonder if the really awarded type 1 awards so late? When thet had the new ones? I have a doc myself for a 1st class award from 1959 but I cant say for sure that the order I have was awarded with that book. I will post pics later today Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 We are waiting for it...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipnos Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Hello!!Do you speak of the red Banner of labour???. I have one , but m?sing some red ename of the flag. I?ll post pic this nightMiguel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I fixed the title of the thread to reflect what we are actually talking about. Perhaps someone can give us a (hopefully) accurate time-line on the various types and ribbon/mountings. My questions are:A) Was the Order Red Banner of Labor ever a screw-back with no suspension?B) Any idea as to dates of issue via the numbering system?C) When did they stop numbering the award?D) Total number awarded numbered?E) Was the first suspension a tri-folded ribbon?F) When did they switch to the "Soviet" style suspension?I've seen an awful lot cof complex, enameled pieces from the former Soviet Union and its' satelites, but this particular order, in my eyes, was one of the most beautiful pieces that ever came out from behind the former "Iron Curtain".An example: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Reverse: No document came with it, but it did have a case: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Shown with its' suspension: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 And the case: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 (edited) Hi Stogieman,Not all answered but this is what I believe to be the case.A) Nope, never was as far as I knowB) ?C) This award was instituted on December, 13th, 1950. type 1, number and screw on the reverse.After 1971 type 2, without screw and number.D) ?E) The first emission was on a pentagonal suspension (1950) The Order of Peoples Labour was on a tri-folded ribbon not the Order Red Banner of Labour.3 types, instituted on June 21st 1945, Only the 1st type on a tri-fold.The first emission was awarded till 1950. There is a wreath-like eyelet between the order and the ribbon.There was also a womens bow.2. The 2nd emission was issued after 1950 and existed till 1977. no wreath3. From 1977 - 1991, 3rd emission. It is characterized by the pentagonal shape of the obverse with a hammer and a sickle, the reverse is inscribed: "Order of Labour - Gold (respectively silver or bronze) PRB". The first awarding took place in 1946. Stopped 1989.F) It was always on the five-sided suspension.I think you will find christerd and bolgarin are talking about the Order of Peoples Labour, a different award from the one you posted.There are several more Labour awards:Order of Peoples Labour Order Red Banner of LabourOrder of Labour GloryMedal Veteran of LabourMedal of Labour DistinctionRegards Eddie. Edited April 28, 2008 by Taz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 This really is one of my absolute facorites of this Era. Here's an earlier example. Note the number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Here's an interesting comparison. On the left we have the lid of an issue case in the 5K range. On the right, the 658 case. Looks like they were still using leftover Kingdom cases and just stamping the lids with the title of the new order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new world Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Here's an interesting comparison. On the left we have the lid of an issue case in the 5K range. On the right, the 658 case. Looks like they were still using leftover Kingdom cases and just stamping the lids with the title of the new order.You are correct, the case is from old royal stock.This was common practice to use tsarist cases and to attach sheet with communist awardname printed on it.William Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 Hi William, thanks for taking a look. This theory is absolutely born out when we look at the inner tray of the low-number issue case! Clearly, this was for an Imperial-era award. But this is how it came. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 Here's the front of 658. I never get tired of these early issues! Even with the bruise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new world Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 Hi William, thanks for taking a look. This theory is absolutely born out when we look at the inner tray of the low-number issue case! Clearly, this was for an Imperial-era award. But this is how it came.That case was supposed to host something like this (Civil Merit order): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Here's an interesting comparison. On the left we have the lid of an issue case in the 5K range. On the right, the 658 case. Looks like they were still using leftover Kingdom cases and just stamping the lids with the title of the new order.You are absolutely right. Early after WW II some stock of ex royal cases used in communist Bulgaria..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruiz Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I have a very low number. Nº-53. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruiz Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Beautiful piece and lowest number I have seen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 Very nice one ! Super low Number Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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