Jump to content

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 57
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Hello gents

Just spotted this thread and thought I'd contribute to it. I picked up this cased Memel medal many years ago as part of a swap and is one of the few 3rd Reich pieces I have left. I'll try and get some better scans of the obverse and reverse, as the picture I'm adding here was taken with a cheap digital camera a while back.

The case is identical to the Sudetenland one I have, namely maroon with a gold eagle embossed on the front.

cheers Jason

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 1 year later...

Bringin' this thread back to life. I can offer two examples that I am convinced are genuine as they are mounted on period bars. Here is one that fits the descrition of "type 3" that Steve posted earlier in the thread. It has the straight G so I think that way of determining real/fake is nonsense.

Link to post
Share on other sites

...and the interesting thing about this medal is that it is maker marked. I have seen this appear faintly in other images before. I tried to take a picture of it through my loupe - it is a bit blurry ('cause the mark is so damn small) but you can definitely see it. It appears to be an H. followed by something else - perhaps an S. - maybe someone else can show a close up example. I also tried to capture the image with my scanner but just couldn't get it.

This may shed some light on these medals. Who could this maker have been?

Link to post
Share on other sites

Here is the bar. It belonged to Maschinenmaaten Gerhard Muswick. I have photocopies of his award documents - they are as follows...

Spanish Cross in Bronze - 6. Juni, 1939

Wehrmacht Long Service Cross 4th Class - 1. Juli, 1939

Memel Medal - 26. Oktober, 1939

Iron Cross 2nd Class - 29. August, 1940

Minesweeper Badge - 1. February, 1941

Edited by Brian R
Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Darrell

Brian that large bar is a beauty :cheers:

And the writing on the reverse of the Memel is very unusual. I don't think I've seen one quite like that before. Maybe ALL the others are fake and this is how they are supposed to look :rolleyes:

Great piece.

Edited by Darrell
Link to post
Share on other sites

Old thread indeed and much confusion. Isn't the size of the "podium" another indication of fake (i.e. if the podium touches the rim of the medal)? This seems to be a feature that appears with the curevd M....

Link to post
Share on other sites

Curved "m" ????

Hi Terry,

So does this indicate it's bad? :unsure: I'm not up on all the theories and controversies surrounding this one. Got it twenty some odd years ago, stuck it with the other two cased medals in the set and there it's sat over the years.

I don't have alot in it as I recall so no major disaster if it's bad... just want to be sure for my own piece of mind. And so I can put in a note stating if it's bad so others will know when my time comes to move on.

Thanks! :beer:

Dan :cheers:

Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Darrell

Mike, yours is what almost everyone is comfortable with. However, I'm sure there are a few different variations due to the volume of these stamped out.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I am no specialist in these. I have read plenty and participated in a few threads on the WAF and I am still learning. I think Detlev Niemann did show a fake at some point.

PS. Here it is

Edited by TerryG
Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey Terry,

Not an expert by any means, but I think when looking at the Detlev Memel fake you have illustrated it doesn't necessarily spell fake for the "straight-G" type of Memels. The COPY labeled Memel Detlev has shown has the straight-G, but what spells fake to me in the picture is the color of the medal, and especially the outer rim being uneven when comparing the obverse to reverse. (Obverse side is much thinner) While I would agree that the COPY one is a fake, I don't think it spells out fake for all the "straight-Gs," especially those whose other attributes (even rim, general quality, ect) point to it being an original, as well as there are "straight-G" examples that have provinence. Just my take on it, :cheers:

Kind Regards,

Steve

Edited by stevo4361
Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey Dan,

Not an expert by any means, but the texture of your Memel medal that you posted just strikes me as "off." Very pitted, with rough detail, almost like it was cast, or something along those lines? The "design" itself doesn't necessarily make it a bad one, the overall quality though looks lacking to me, and I don't like it. Just my opinion man,

Kind Regards,

Steve

Edited by stevo4361
Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Blog Comments

    • Sounds great other than the Orange & Mango squash only because I prefer cran-pomegranate juice.
    • "(...) disgusting herbal concoction (...)" I took note of this description, to enrich my otherwise limited, English "Wortschatz"...
    • At work the standard indian tea such as PG tips is referred to as chimp tea. This goes back to the days when we had a Spanish girl working for us whose command of the English language was extremely limited. One lunch she said she was going to the shop could she get anything. I asked if she could get a pack of tea bags. She returned with some disgusting herbal concoction. I tried to explain what was required but without success. I then remembered PG tips had a picture of a chimpanzee on the packe
    • When I read Lapsang Souchong i decided to post something about these Tea . Many years ago I dont  know about Lapsang until I read James Michener book Centennial and the description of the savour of the Lapasang as a mix of tar and salt & smoked made me proof . It was exact ! and i liked it since then .
    • I have been known to drink Lapsang Souchong and Tea, Earl Grey, Hot... both "without pollutants". I normally have one mug of coffee in the morning, then spend the rest of the day drinking Orange & Mango squash (by the pint). Then evening comes and it's a pint, followed by red wine with dinner and sometimes a drop of Laphroaig afterwards.
×
×
  • Create New...