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Wild Card Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 (edited) Hello Komtur,I was very seriously considering a bid on this bar and a few other items in this auction; but events at home sidetracked me.I like this bar but that ?gold? Carl Olga medal bothers me for two reasons. First, I can not find any evidence of a gold class to this medal (only silver and bronze). The second thing is that the red cross on the ?gold? medal looks, for lack of a better word, funny. Now, maybe it was damaged when the medal was gilded.Of course there is the picture of the recipient wearing this bar which indicates that it is legitimate... customized medal and all.Best wishes,Wild CardP.S. Personally, the Carl Olga medal is among my favorites. They have a unique and relatively complex construction; and every one I have seen has been very well struck, very crisp. Edited May 3, 2008 by Wild Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Interesting spange, which auction is this in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Interesting spange, which auction is this in?Was in. Hermann on 14th/15th April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted May 3, 2008 Author Share Posted May 3, 2008 (edited) @VtwinVinceIt cames from Hermann Historica.@Wild CardSo I am glad that events "sidetracked you", but hope these were not to bad... No question, besides the connection to a medical person, the two Karl-Olga-Medals forces me, to bid on this bar and the paper belonging to the bar.Here some more of it: Edited May 4, 2008 by Komtur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Rick Research Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 No NAME to go with these?You cannot hope for BETTER period proof than exact, precise, deatiled photos like these matching every wrinkle and fold of the medal bar being worn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted May 3, 2008 Author Share Posted May 3, 2008 No NAME to go with these?You cannot hope for BETTER period proof than exact, precise, deatiled photos like these matching every wrinkle and fold of the medal bar being worn. That was exactly was I thought, when I decided to bid on this And here is the name: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RAO Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 A verry fine Group my friend. ;o))) Best regards Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medalnet Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 ...so really a mix up in the sequence of those two medals?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted May 3, 2008 Author Share Posted May 3, 2008 ...so really a mix up in the sequence of those two medals?!Yes, and another example for mistakes made in the old times. We do not know why, but if we hadn?t the pics and the papers, would we trust this bar ?Best regards, Komtur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 ...Hello!VERY nice Group,Congratulation.All the best Nesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 Perhaps he has simply gilded his bronze medal and "promoted" himself? Per materials and construction. I'd say spot-on perfect, period bar even without the benefit of the photograph. Congratulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted May 4, 2008 Author Share Posted May 4, 2008 details of the two Karl-Olga-Medals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ulsterman Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 In a word-wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 Amazing Red Cross Bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 Wasn't a very similar bar in Eric Ludwigson's collection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Hi Stogieman,I am not sure as to exactly what you mean when you say ?similar?; but in checking Eric?s main photo archives, I am not finding any bars with a Carl-Olga medal. Of course these records do not reflect his entire collection. If I find anything in the miscellaneous records, I will post it.@Komtur,Thank you for the kind words (post #6), all is back on track now. It is a relief to know that you got this fantastic bar - it has a good home. Wild Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipnos Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 @VtwinVinceIt cames from Hermann Historica.@Wild CardSo I am glad that events "sidetracked you", but hope these were not to bad... No question, besides the connection to a medical person, the two Karl-Olga-Medals forces me, to bid on this bar and the paper belonging to the bar.Here some more of it:In the old photos the cross on the extreme left (right of the wearer), is a Charlotte cross???Miguel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted May 6, 2008 Author Share Posted May 6, 2008 In the old photos the cross on the extreme left (right of the wearer), is a Charlotte cross???MiguelYes, it seems to be a Charlottenkreuz, but unfortunately it was not in the lot. As to be seen on the pic, this cross was single mounted.Regards, Komtur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcross Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 I'm glad it went to a good homesorry I had to help bid it upbut I very much wanted it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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