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    Posted (edited)

    Welcome your thoughts on this little puppy, just purchased also th criteria for the Finnish awards, as ever thanks, Paul

    Edited by dante
    Posted

    Looks real and very nice-I'd wager navy with an ek2 in the button hole.

    I think RR has the numbers for the Finnish medal-and there weren't many awarded.

    Posted

    Looks real and very nice-I'd wager navy with an ek2 in the button hole.

    I think RR has the numbers for the Finnish medal-and there weren't many awarded.

    No EKII - the bar with the Hindenburg Cross added in the thirties would have the EKII as well added.

    Hardy

    Posted

    No EKII - the bar with the Hindenburg Cross added in the thirties would have the EKII as well added.

    Hardy

    Ideally yes-but not always.

    There was a fashion statement of "wearing the highest decoration in the button hole".

    Posted

    Ideally yes-but not always.

    There was a fashion statement of "wearing the highest decoration in the button hole".

    But lower ranks like this dude were not allowed fashion statements were they ? :-)

    "But Sarge... its all the mode in Sachsen..."

    Posted (edited)

    You think he wasn't an officer in 1940-IF he was recalled (not no LS medals)?

    One might have supposed that THIS tidbit in the button hole merited mounting, but still not by 1940, when this snapshot was taken.

    I have other photos ( 1935-39) to back up my statement.

    Edited by Ulsterman
    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    Yes, but those were SPECIAL awards, not run of the mill. For the sort of enlisted awards that if an officer, were mainly worn at the neck, or before 1935 had precedence before the generic Iron Cross. Gore Vidal here has even done that with his Prussian Gold Military Merit Cross-- but it is THIS level of award that got the Special Fashion Treatment:

    This fellow was probably a simple private or sailor to have gotten the Finnish Bronze medal of Liberty, and never had anything beyond the Hanseatic Cross from his native Hamburg. I have and have had several junior enlisted groups where a home state award came before--often long before-- an EK2. The war ran out before he could earn anything else-- especially if navy.

    There were 8,716 Medals of Liberty 2nd Class 1918 BUT of the not quite 14,000 total--counting the 1st Class Silver ones, only 2,266 of BOTH Medals went to Germans. So figure 1/2 to 2/3 of the combined 2,266 for ACTUAL number of Bronzes guesstimate to Germans.

    Posted

    Welcome your thoughts on this little puppy, just purchased also th criteria for the Finnish awards, as ever thanks, Paul

    Hello!

    I like it a lot and the finnich medals.Congrats and thanks for showing. :jumping::jumping::jumping:

    All the best :beer:

    Nesredep

    Posted

    Ulsterman, what is the medal the Luftwaffe Officer is wearing in his button hole?

    Also, can you please post that photo in the LW uniforms section(entire uniform and a close up of the tabs and boards)? This is the first LW Reserve Officer I have ever seen in a period photo! :jumping:

    Posted

    Paul:

    Will do on Monday-baseball beckons.

    You've convinced me-although the clinching proof is the ribbon bar and minis sans Ek2.

    However, I do have counterproof photos....... :Cat-Scratch:

    Posted

    Ulsterman, is the photo you posted of the reserve LW officer above actually dated 1940?

    Thanks.

    Scott

    Posted

    Ulsterman, is the photo you posted of the reserve LW officer above actually dated 1940?

    Thanks.

    Scott

    No-

    It came in an envelope with @ 10 photos of French POWs...so I supposed....

    Posted

    No EKII - the bar with the Hindenburg Cross added in the thirties would have the EKII as well added.

    Hardy

    Would they be automatically awarded the EK if they had been awarded foreign medals?

    • 2 weeks later...
    Posted

    Looks like a Bavarian Tapferkeitsmedaille in the buttonhole. I find it hard to believe that this guy didn't get an EK 1, considering he also has the MVO.

    Posted

    Welcome your thoughts on this little puppy, just purchased also th criteria for the Finnish awards, as ever thanks, Paul

    I?ve just bough another similar (finn medal, but no bravery medal) bar...this time he comes with EKII, but a Kolonial denkm?tze is missing...I?m searching for one.

    Regards and Greetings

    Miguel

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