It ?s a Fake?

[hipnos]

Can you tell me something about this EK1??

Thanks

Miguel

[gregM]

NOT a fake. That is a pillowback style cross made by the maker "AWS". ( A. Werner & S?hne, Berlin )

These are a hard to find variation and usually bring a premium on the market. They can

be found in screwback and pinback versions and can be found with silver or brass frames.

I have one just like yours with a brass frame and iron core.

Congrats on finding a very nice cross.

Edited June 7, 2008 by gregM

[Tom Y]

The pinback

[Eric Stahlhut]

a few more. top is silvered brass, bottom is .925

[gregM]

double screw posts

[joe campbell]

good LORD!!!what a beautiful assemblage

of EK's!!!!

porridge for tired eyes....

joe

[buellmeister]

Joe,

I am with you!!! Sheer Beauties!!!!

[Steve campbell]

This maker was the only one kn own to use this unique rear design, so when you see it you know it's AWS. Here's a screwback I have.

[Steve campbell]

AWS also made standard designed EK1s also, in addition to the pillowback. Here is a screwback marked 925. The AWS symbol is one the hardware of this one. Does anyone have a non pillowback AWS in pinback?

[ekhunter]

a few more. top is silvered brass, bottom is .925

Please explain the story/holes on the bottom one. Very interesting!

[Eric Stahlhut]

Please explain the story/holes on the bottom one. Very interesting!

no real story, it's merely an EK1 that has had the pin and catch removed so that the cross could be sewn flush onto a tunic or coat; sometimes individuals would do this so that the cross would not snag on something and get ripped off. pilots were known to have done this due to the close confines of a cockpit. the obverse on this cross shows a lot of exposure to the elements.

Edited June 9, 2008 by Eric Stahlhut

[ekhunter]

The obverse explains it. In the first photo, the holes appeared not to go all the way through, which left me trying to figure out how the attachment worked. I've got one where the holes were punched through the frame, but this is the first I've seen where the holes were punched through the iron core. Very nice and interesting.

[Eric Stahlhut]

Does anyone have a non pillowback AWS in pinback?

here's an interesting one.

nicely vaulted, nonmagnetic core. front frame appears to be of silvered brass

[Eric Stahlhut]

rear frame is silver (unmarked)

Edited October 31, 2009 by Eric Stahlhut

[Eric Stahlhut]

view of the side

all in all, a very nice piece!

[Glenn R]

Superb collection of pillow backs. Really nice to see so many examples and variants. One of my favourites. :jumping:

[DavidM]

Hello

Absolutely fabulous set of pillowback EKs Damm it, I'm drooling all over my keyboard now :lol:

Edited November 1, 2009 by DavidM

[Graf]

Hi GregM,

As you stated in one of the posts

"NOT a fake. That is a pillow back style cross made by the maker "AWS". ( A. Werner & S?hne, Berlin )

These are a hard to find variation and usually bring a premium on the market. They can

be found in screw back and pin back versions and can be found with silver or brass frames.

I have one just like yours with a brass frame and iron core"

 

I got the same brass core model. After looking in all existing materials

I came to a conclusion that the Bras core screw back model never had a big plate only the screw which is also made of brass

On some other forum sites the owners of this model were not happy that the "big disc" is missing.

All crosses I researched none of them had any sign of previously existing big plate plate/disc  The patina on the back, on all of them, showed very even pattern

 

Best

 

[toot]

never heard or seen one, pillow back. thanks for sharing.