seb16trs Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 here, I'm really puzzled: would this be 100 infantry division? the hypothesis about a bad suspension is not impossible; what puzzled me are the towns quoted, which are totally different from the book datas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 which one? 30th division? army? brigade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 (edited) same problem than before: division? army? heavy construction badge... Edited September 30, 2008 by seb16trs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 40th division or army? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 a regiment lost amongst many others. INteresting because huge, heavy and crudely custom-made enamel job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 same problem... what is the Tcherkasska?a? a division? an army? it could be a good occasion to complete Pauls nomenclatura of dedications (see end of book) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 very interesting, because tiny(the star is not much bigger than a 2 euros piece), in heavy alloy, and a very fine enamel job. But complete enigma avbout the abrevatiion... last letter "Y" stands for a school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 here, a tank corps, but still ... which one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 a monster, huge (3inches) , nice, aluminium alloy... unknown unity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 (edited) and last enigma... Podolsk military school? Edited September 30, 2008 by seb16trs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 ok, now here are known badges for participation to the 1985 victory parade: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 flashy colors, like the official proficiency badge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 again, a huge monster for the 19th division (3in, like the 57th army badge) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 and pure curiosity: very heavy and thick brass alloy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 the big 3rd army badge: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 (edited) military okrug, Pribaltiskii? Heavy alloy, custom-made... Edited September 30, 2008 by seb16trs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted September 30, 2008 Author Share Posted September 30, 2008 Thanks for these! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Thanks for these! I hope we'll find some of these enigmas! :jumping: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted September 30, 2008 Author Share Posted September 30, 2008 It is a shame that Paul almost never comes here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 (edited) It is a shame that Paul almost never comes here.he surely lacks time to do this; let's play between collectors and he'll see the job later. His book is a good milestone, and an pleasant tool.But I've been told by one of the only french dealers who ventured in Russia in the early 90ies that a russian book existed about veterans badges; I never successed to gather any more infos about that... :( Edited September 30, 2008 by seb16trs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted September 30, 2008 Author Share Posted September 30, 2008 So true and all credit to Paul. (And he also has a "day job".)He has accomplished a very difficult thing: To publish a book when you know for certain that your presentation will be far, far less than 100%. This is a very difficult thing for any author to do. He has now introduced the field and brought (deluging) out of collection drawers and boxes the badges he does not present. Some day, a second (or third or . . . ?) edition . . . ?The best we can do is share (as has been done in thsi thread) high-quality images of "NIS" badges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 So true and all credit to Paul. (And he also has a "day job".)He has accomplished a very difficult thing: To publish a book when you know for certain that your presentation will be far, far less than 100%. This is a very difficult thing for any author to do. He has now introduced the field and brought (deluging) out of collection drawers and boxes the badges he does not present. Some day, a second (or third or . . . ?) edition . . . ?The best we can do is share (as has been done in thsi thread) high-quality images of "NIS" badges. I have the chance to belong one third of the badges presented in the book... I've got a looong work to complete the collection and I discovered lots of variations about suspensions, varnish, letterage colours... The same badge could be issued with "updated" supsensions following the celebration years (i.e. 30, 35, 40years and so on...). Regimental badges, and cold war badges (with only the v/tch. 5 digits numbers) seem to be a "black continent" to explore.My friend Lapa saw hundreds of such badges in russian fairs. :speechless1: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Some additions:Post #23:Red Banner Aviation Regiment.Post #24:Charkov Highest Military Aviation School for Pilots (VVAUL).Post #25:40 years Guards Red Banner Obyedineniye (which is either an association or a combined troops unit)Post #26:35 years 100th Rifle Division (which fought near Voronezh, Lvov and Prague; "Lvov" became an official battle honor of this division in 1944).Post #27:An Ukrainian badge for 75 years 30th Guards Irkutst Pinsk ??.Post #28:Badge for 60 years 29th Red Banner Yelninsky Order of Suvorov Guards Rifle Division (initially established as 32nd Rifle Division).Post #29:40 years 1st Guards Moscow-Minsk Rifle Motorized Division.Post #30:35 years Guards Vladimir-Volynsk Regiment.Post #31:I'm not 100% sure, but I believe this badge is for 30 years 7th Guards Cherkassy Red Banner Order of Bogdan Khmelnitsky Airborne Division. The only unit I can find with this combination of awards and honorary titles, but a tank on an airborne unit badge is odd.Post #32:25 years Kharkov Guards Tank Command School (KhgvVTKU), later the Kharkov Guards Highest Tank Command Order of the Red Star School named after the Supreme Soviet of the Ukrainian SSR.This is the school's website:http://www.xty.ruPost #33:This Ukrainian badge is not for a specific unit, but for 30 years of Battle of Korsun-Shevchenkovsky.Post #34:Badge for the Independent Cavalry Regiment.Post #35:October 1941 - Veteran of the Podolsk Military School.Post #38;19th Voronezh-Shumlinsky Red Banner Order of Suvorov and Red Banner of Labor Rifle Division.Post #39:December 1917 - Veteran of the Kremlyovets (presidential Kremlin unit).Post #40:Veteran of the 3rd Army 1941-1945.Post #41:Volga-Ural Military District (PUrVO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 many thanks Ferdinand. You cleared some enigmas! Would it be possible to ask you if you have some sources? (any book, like the Robert G. Poirier?)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 (edited) two more...my hypothesis:1st gards corps?In fact I would be happy to find a dictionnary of soviet abrevations... Edited October 4, 2008 by seb16trs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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