Charles Alexandre Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hello Gentlemen, I recently got this wonderful bulgarian officer winter coat with a fur collar. I know (thanks to period photographs) that this kind of coat was used during WW1, but due to the bakelite buttons used on my coat, I rather think it is a 20's or 30's fabrication, probably with the same cup as WW1 model. I put on it bulgarian WW1 artillery captain shoulder boards and a luger holster which I suppose to be bulgarian. (Please don't pay attention to the sword, it is an english one just put there awaiting to be replaced by a bulgarian one). Can you help me to identify the coat and the holster more precisely? I want to use them as a WW1 ones, because my bulgarian militaria collection is WW1 oriented. I am waiting for your comment. Thanks very much RegardsCharles Alexandre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Alexandre Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 I add here photos of the bakelite button, and photos of the shoulder boards I added to the coat, and of brass button which seems me better to use for WW1 coat.Charles Aleaxandre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodor Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Although the buttons are 1930's /mid 1930's/ Bulgarian military, the coat does not look Bulgarian to me. The holster - could be. Are there two pouches for mag under the flap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Alexandre Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hello!Unfortunately no mag pouch under the holster, but I know no other countries using such kind of holster for luger! I got the coat on ebay coming from Bulgaria. The buttons seems to be originally mounted, not resewn. The quality of cloth used is the same as for my Bulgarian M1915 officer cap and my M1915 soldier trousers. In the book Uniforms and Equipment of the Central Powers in WW1 vol 1 by Sprencer and Coil you can see a picture of mounted Bulgarian officers wearing this kind of coats with fur. But I have no other information. In France it is so difficult to find information about Bulgarian army in WW1, which is why I enlist for this forum! What do you think about the shoulder boards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Alexandre Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 Could it be such kind of private purchase coat but made with less fine quality whool? I found this photo one the web. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodor Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 (edited) While in the Balkan wars and the WW1 you could see all kinds of private purchases, at later times it was not like this! Officers wore clothing according to the army regulations. The only thing they could do, was order uniforms made of better quality materials, better taylors. But were not allowed to change the pattern and appearance. Only during the war against Germany /late 1944-45/ were seen again non-regulation uniforms /mainly field made short jackets/, but this coat does not look like the 1944-45 things.Can not tell you for sure. The buttons, this type was used not for long at some time after 1930 and before 1936. Really, can not tell you more about this coat, just that it is very unusual /which usually means Wrong/. It can be even a real 1930's officer coat, later modified for civil use /boards removed, fur collar added/. How is the fur collar attached, does it seem later added? Can you show me a picture of the reverse of the collar? And what about the back side of the coat - do you have a picture? Is there a small short belt with two buttons on the back side? And finally, what about the lining, what material is used? It will ve very good, if you can show me pictures of the reverse of the collar, the back side of the coat and the lining.As for the holster, the Hungarians used that design, too. But as mentioned, I think it has good chances to be Bulgarian.The photo you have found on the web - I think it is WW1 or earlier. As for the boards, I like those. Not sure for the period, could be WW1, or right after or a little before, in these times there were lots of changes, mainly in the size. Edited November 6, 2008 by Theodor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Alexandre Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 Thanks very much Theodor for your help and precious indications. I add other photo of the coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Alexandre Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 Collar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Alexandre Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 Collar other view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Alexandre Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 button "for gentlemen" in the collar, I have the same kind of button, on my M1915 trousers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Alexandre Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 Last one, I hope it can help. The collar seems not to be resewn.RegardsCharles Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Alexandre Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 The back is not like a regular occifer coat, no small band and buttons unfortunately! Ch. Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodor Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Sorry, can't say more for now! Will try to find out more. Will write, if find some information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Alexandre Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 Thanks again theodor! I hope you will find some info! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Alexandre Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 To continue on the topic "fur coat" another phot from WW1 I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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