JBFloyd Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 (edited) Can someone enlighten me about this breast star? The inscription reads "Juliana Maria/D.4.S. 1783" Edited November 24, 2008 by JBFloyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFloyd Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 (edited) The reverse is blank except for an "AM" maker's mark (Michelsen?) and it has a vertical double pin. Edited November 24, 2008 by JBFloyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley1965 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 WOW Jeff!!! I don't know what it is but, IT'S BEAUTIFUL!!! Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 The reverse is blank except for an "AM" maker's mark (Michelsen?) and it has a vertical double pin.Juliana Maria (1729-96) was the wife of Frederick V, she married him in 1752. Thats the only Juliana Maria who has any connection with Denmark, maybe an ephemeral order created in her honour.Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFloyd Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 Paul,I think you're on the right track. As you can see, it's a well-made piece, so it's not a church school attendance badge. I've seen photos of several minor princesses of Denmark wearing what were described as ephemeral or ecclesiastical orders, but the photos are never clear enough to see the detail of the insignia. This is when I miss my old friend Eric Ludvigsen, who had a remarkable knowledge of Danish insignia in addition to encyclopedic knowledge of Austria and German awards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Krause Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Niiice thing!!!!Actually, now I am limited in my English.It is a star of an Abbess of the Danish Ladies Foundation Wall? at SeelandQuite RAARE!!!Here is an embroidered early version:Best regardsDaniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFloyd Posted November 25, 2008 Author Share Posted November 25, 2008 Daniel,Many thanks for that information. It certainly ties together the bits of information I had. Now I just have to learn Danish and start some additional research.Tak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Daniel is indeed right in identifying this star. And 'AM' is Michelsen's hallmark.Jeff, let me know if you need help with any Danish translations./Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Any idea how old the star is from the construction and maker mark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 This particular star looks pretty 'clean' compared to my own and others I've seen, but it was probably made around 1880-1900. The metal stars were likely privately purchased stars - much like the embroidered Dannebrog stars which were frequently replaced with a purchased metal version (the metal version became official after 1909).The members wore a badge in a sash. The 'headmaster' wore the same badge (but set with diamonds) and sash and the breast star shown here. The Vall? Stift still exists, but they don't wear the insignias anymore (at least not that I know of...).Here are some pictures of other stars (you can see the slight variations in the rays between the cross arms)/Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 And the illustration from Gritzner's (slightly inaccurate) book "Handbuch der im Deutschen Reiche, in Oesterreich-Ungarn, D?nemark, Schweden und den Russischen Ostseeprovinzen bestehenden Damen-Stifter..." from 1893./Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 :cheers: How many of these Protestant lady-nuns WERE there???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I don't know exactly. The statutes (from 1737) mentions 25 ladies who would live at the place and 330 who would not. Furthermore there are limitations on how many 'retired' ladies who would receive a pension etc. etc.The no. of ladies would probably vary widely over the years (there were a LOT of rules to fulfill - being noble and unmarried were just a few of them) and I don't know if the old statutes were followed to the letter later on.I guess the privately purchased stars were non-returnable, but the badges would probably be returned after the death of the recipient./Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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