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Hello all and happy new year!

Here is my 2009 first arrival! Pretty nice 11 place Bavarian ribbon bar with the 40 years LS device. Like I know this one is impossible to track down :Cat-Scratch: . Just how many those 40 years devices is around at all and what this bar can "tell" us about the owner?

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Ah, that bar has been around and around. I suspect some sort of Beamter. No device on the Austro-Hungarian "bravery" war awards ribbon usually indicates something like a Franz Joseph Order or a Merit Cross... cannot tell whether this fellow was an unusually well decorated NCO in the first war and a very old Oberleutnant level military official in the second orrrrr.... some sort of odd specialist officer like Johannes Freye here-- 10 years in grade as Oberst!

Like Freye, I know that my "40" was an officer (WM3) but I can't find MINE either, yet, so don't feel bad!

Other than Field Marshal Gerd von Rundstedt, most "40" recipients were fairly low level military administrative officials. Some were overaged low ranking Generals who had been in some sort of side-lined no promotions job like Freye.

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God, doesn't anybody KEEP things any more? THAT one has been around and around too.

Luckily it is SO easy to find with a Reichsheer Ranklist...

say that 1924 reprint printed last year which is the key to all Imperial-Weimar-Wehrmacht groups.

AMAZING how easy this is with a basic, fundamental, essential home reference library. :rolleyes:

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Thanks Rick for your comment........ General Heinrich H?ring :cheeky:

Now, today`s arrival. 9 place ribbon bar. I must say.... catch bothers me and the pin. ANY comments would be helpfull and much apriciated. Over the weekend I can post better pictures if nessesary.

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Well, since THAT Travelin' Bar passed through my very own Schloss not too long ago* on an unfortunately timed Traveling Museum visit (when I was computerless and so scanner-less for routine mechanical problem repair)...

it IS a Very Small World, after all...

the catch is funny looking, but it was struck through the backing plate and not one of the Frankenstein solder-jobs. You can feel the indentation from where it was stamped out. The backing plate itself is thinner than usual... so the thinner pin seems to fit with whoever the unknown maker of this type "budget" backing was.

For instance--it took me a few years to realize that the weird silver Bakelite type plastic backed tabbies were actually real, some years back. Yours is also a style of backing plate I haven't seen before...

but not weird enough to make anything of that.

Eventually one like yours will wash up here to stay and I'll have more time for Ribbon Bar Forensics.

* absorb the Magic Ricky Karma.... Ommmmmmmmmm :rolleyes:

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Thanks Rick again! :beer:

Like you said as well.... pin, catch and the plate is different then usually we see (especially I have seen - "greenhorn", like I am) so, I just started thinking and wanted to be sure :cat: .

Almost every day I learn something more and today was definately one of them! Thank you for your advise again!

EPSON is soon on the way to my house.... will start providing better pictures as well then :cheers:

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I still absolutely do not like the bar from #7 as I felt and said before, just some weeks ago. Right backing plate is not enough, there might be fake bars on real backing plates... do the ribbons glow? They almost do without black light...

;o(

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  • 9 months later...

Here is my second bar with the 40 years of Long Service devicecheers.gif

- EK2 (Eisernes Kreuz 2 klasse)

- Württemberg Merit Cross with Swords (Verdienstkreuz mit Schwertern)

- Honour Cross for Combatants (Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer)

- Silesian Eagle (Schleischer Adler 2 klasse)

- 40 years Long Service Cross (Treue Diesnste in der Wehrmacht)

- 12 years Long Service medal (Treue Diesnste in der Wehrmacht)

- Hungary Commemorative medal for combatants

- Bulgaria Commemorative Medal for the War of 1915-1918

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Hi Timo,

Apparently I made a bad call on this one: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=392453

Perhaps you can direct me to a thread with the precedence of German decorations, my assumption was made based on this ribbon bar. Also, how do I differentiate the two green bars with white stripes? My coloursight is a bit off, so is it the silvered swords?

cheers

Peter

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Here is my second bar with the 40 years of Long Service devicecheers.gif

- EK2 (Eisernes Kreuz 2 klasse)

- Württemberg Merit Cross with Swords (Verdienstkreuz mit Schwertern)

- Honour Cross for Combatants (Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer)

- Silesian Eagle (Schleischer Adler 2 klasse)

- 40 years Long Service Cross (Treue Diesnste in der Wehrmacht)

- 12 years Long Service medal (Treue Diesnste in der Wehrmacht)

- Hungary Commemorative medal for combatants

- Bulgaria Commemorative Medal for the War of 1915-1918

Hi Timo!

Your württemberg'sche Ribbon bar with the 40 years LS award is exactly matching my medal bar... also the dealer's label "Sedlatzek"...

I am ready to purchase it from to re-unite it with my bigger brother.... ;-) Let me know if you are willing to let it go...

Ciao,

Claudio

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god kväll Peter!cheers.gif

I am not an expert as well but on the bar, what we was discussed on the WAF(ninja.gif ), Albert order makes sence in this place.

You should post the picture of that bar here, if you ask promisin from the owner.2014.gif

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Good evening Timo :cheers:

I assumed the position would be the logical reason for your response, just needed to make sure there weren't any other specifics for evaluation available. Still I can't find that precedence list I know is published on this forum.

Since this forum is already polluted, which of them do you prefer :whistle:

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