Claudio Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Dear forumites, I was quite fortunate to acquire the following medal bar. Ordensspange: Preußen, Eisernes Kreuz 1914, 2. Klasse (OEK 1909) Baden, Orden vom Zähringer Löwen, Ritterkreuz 2. Kl. mit Schwertern (OEK 157), S vg Hohenzollern, Fürstlich Hohenzollernscher Hausorden, 2. Modell (1852 ? jetzt), Kreuz 3. Klasse mit Schwertern, ab 1866 (OEK 1035/1), S Deutsches Reich 1933-45, Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer (OEK 3803/1), Hersteller R.V.67. Pforzheim Medaillen: Preußen, Eisernes Kreuz 1914, 1. Klasse (OEK 1908), Hersteller vermutlich Paul Meybauer Knopflochschleife mit Bänder des EK, FEK, BZ2 I would need any additional information on Ravan Freiherr Göler von Ravensburg. During the WWII he also has been awarded with the Iron Cross 2nd class clasp 1939 and the KVK 2. Kl. 1939, since I saw his ribbon bar, but I unfortunately couldn't successfully bid on it. Many thanks in advance for your most appreciated help. Ciao, Claudio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 Here a scan of the missed out ribbon bars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 Information taken from Wikipedia (German):http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/G?ler_von_RavensburgUnfortunately the above-mentioned officer and WWI veteran is not mentioned in the Wikipedia article.Claudio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Krause Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Niiice!!I know he was born in 1897, but nothing more....Lt in LGR 109, discharged as 1st Lt,HEK3X and BZ3bX are covered in the rolls.Best regardsDaniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 There were quite a few young Lieutenants with that WW1 combination-- what documentation suggests it was HIS?There is no HEK3X on the lapel bow, only EK, BZ3bX and FKEK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Claudio,this from the Offizier-Stammliste of LGR 109.RegardsGlenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 Many thanks Glenn! Here is the back of the medals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe campbell Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 beautiful EK 1 !nicely repaired hinge pin.good things CAN come in small packages! joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted October 13, 2009 Author Share Posted October 13, 2009 (edited) No luck in Gunzenhausen... but at least I got these two ribbon bars... another small wonder and another re-unification of some pieces of the same officer (not cheap). Note the shape of the Wiederholungsspange, it's a first 1st class!!! :whistle: Edited October 13, 2009 by Claudio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dedehansen Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 On 9.1.2009 at 20:17, Claudio said: Information taken from Wikipedia (German): http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/G?ler_von_Ravensburg Unfortunately the above-mentioned officer and WWI veteran is not mentioned in the Wikipedia article. Claudio Hello Claudio. is this something for you? http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Goler-von-Ravensburg-Baden-Zahringer-Lowe-IR-109-Karlsruhe-Orden-EK-1-/152316675741?hash=item2376c8069d:g:BZIAAOSw44BYKKVQ Ciao Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 Thanks Andreas!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedehansen Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 On 14.11.2016 at 22:26, Claudio said: Thanks Andreas!!! You are welcome! http://www.ebay.de/itm/Fotos-Konvolut-Goler-von-Diersburg-Baden-Offizier-Orden-Zahringer-Lowe-EK-/152397675236?hash=item237b9bfae4:g:EscAAOSwA3dYe9uN Kind regards Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) Again thanks Andreas... the only problem the seller won't send it outside Germany. But I'm going to try to bit on it. I'm posting the pictures here in case, they will be lost or sold to somebody else. ciao, C Edited January 18, 2017 by Claudio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 Dear Forumites, Some nice additional info on the officer, given to me by a still living descendant who lives in Germany: 145. Ravan Kurt L.W.S. (1897-1968) 2.3.: 1., Ferdinand-Zweig; 1. Ravan-Unterzweig: XXI. Generation 145. (141.a) Ravan Kurt Leopold Max Sigmund, geb. in Karlsruhe am 23.03.1897, gest. in Freiburg i.Br. am 26.01.1968 (begr. Edb.[ii]), Mitbesitzer zu Sulzfeld, Major, Industrie-Kaufmannverheiratet in Egglingen (Baden), am 20.09.1920 mit Irmgard v. Lewinski, geb. in Pendenried b. Starnberg am 19.07.1900, gest. in Freiburg am 01.12.1970, begr. Ebd., T. d. Kgl. preuß. Majors d. Res. a.D. Kurt v. L. (1897-1942) und d. Johanna (Jenny) Freiin v. Aufseß (1876-1961). Al. 145. v. Lewinski Kinder: Friedrich, geb. in Ettlingen am 06.10.1921, Industriekaufm.; verheiratet mit Annemarie Wilke 2 Töchter, 1 Sohn. Fam. Nr. 146 Irmela Emmy Jenny, geb. in Freiburg 21.03.1923, gest. in Schwetzingen 07.02.1987, beigesetzt Sulzfeld[iii], lebte 1950-1965 bei den Eltern in Freiburg, war dann Stiftsdame des Kreichgauer Adeligen Damenstiftes. Von ihr stammt die Idee der Burgschenke. Berthold, geb. in Essen 24.11.19126, Großhandelskaufm., verheiratet mit Ingeborg v.Ondarza, 2 Söhne Fam. Nr. 147 Adelheit Lisbeth Irmgard, geb. in Essen 16.08.1928, verheiratet in Freiburg i.Br. am 29.12.1953 mit Heinz v. Sigriz, geb. in München 10.01.1928, gest. in Miesbach (OBay.) am 25.07.1996, Ing. Kinder: Nikolaus v. S., *Bad Tölz 14.12.1954 Wolfgang v. S., * Neuß 24.02.1956 Angelika v. S., * Neuß 22.08.1957 Ravan K.L.M.S. war der Sohn des Kgl. Preuss. Hauptmanns und Ghzgl. Bad. Hofmarschalls Sigmund II. A.F. Frhr. G.v.R. (1870-1951, Fam. Nr. 141) und d. Emily v. Bohlen und Halbach (1874-1939). 1914 wurde er Fahnenjunker im 1. Bad. Leib.Gren.Regt. 109; 1915 Leutnant; 1920 Abschied als Oberleutnant (GLA 456/3682), 1937 reaktiviert; 1920-1930 nach chem.-techn. Studium an d. TH. Karlsruhe: Besuch von Handelskursen und d. Obstbauschule Geisenheim. Als Betriebsleiter, später Prokurist, in versch. Betrieben der Holzindustrie tätig. 1926-28 Wohnung in Essen; 1930-1939 in d. chem. Industrie in Bochum, zuletzt Prokurist. Wohnung in Essen; 1939 Zug- u. Komp.Führer im II. Ers.Batl. Gren.Regt. 39, Mülheim, Ruhr; 1939-1940 Komp.Führer 9./Gren.Regt. 257; Hauptmann d.Res. (01.05.1940); 1940-1941 im Stab d. 83. Inf.Div. (Ordon.Offz. O3 und 1c), dann d. 99.leicht.Inf.Div. (IIa); 1941-1942 im Stab 7. Geb.Div. (IIa), dann Gen.Kommando LIX. AK (IIb); Major d.Res. 1942-1944 im Stab des LIX. AK als Adjudant, Führerreserve OKH/ D.r.W. Kdo. IV. 1944-1945 Wehrmachts-Streifen-Lehr-Abt.: englische Kriegsgefangenschaft; 1945-1946 Angestellter in der Industrie (Fa. Kohlenwertstoff AG, in Bochum); 1947-1948 Mitarbeiter im Göler’schen Weinbaubetrieb zu Sulzfeld (Wohnung in Amalienhof), Bevollmächtigter s. Vaters Sigmund, in den Mit-Eingtümer-versammlungen und Vertragsverhandlungen z. Bildung der „Vierer-Gruppe“ (Vertrag v. 07.11.1947) 1949-1962 in Verkauf u. Beratung d. Rhrstickstoff AG, Bochum, für Baden-Württ. Wohnte seit dem Tod des Vaters (1951) in dessen Haus in Freiburg (Seminarstrasse 16, verkauft Herbst 1970) und war 1951-1968, gemeinsam mit Albrecht G.v.R. (1878-1966), verantwortlich für das Frhr. V. Göler’sche Rentamt in Sulzfeld. Orden: EK 1914 II. Klasse (1915) Ghzgtm. Baden, Zähringer Löwen, RK 2. Kl. m. X (1916 durch d. Grossherzog) EK 1914 I. Klasse (1917, durch den Deutschen Kronprinzen!). Numerische Reihung: Ravan K.L. (hier Nr. 145) müsste als Nr. 142 direkt seinem Vater Sigmund (141) folgen, und Egon (hier Nr. 142) als Nr. 157, erst nach Berchtold (hier Nr. 147) und dessen Söhnen. Die Reihung hier folgt der Übersichts-Stammtafel des Göler-Sonderdruckers von 1979. [ii] Sein und seiner Eltern gemeinsamer Grabstein kam am 14.11.1985von Freiburg auf den Sulzfelder Familien-Friedhof neben der Ev. Kirche. [iii] Irmela: Urnen-Beisetzung im neuen Familiengrab auf dem Neuen Sulzfelder Gemeindefriedhof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I just ran across this thread. So, these are his wedding photos from September 1920? Three of them still have their pickelhaubes! The gentleman in a tuxedo on the far right appears to have a throat award and several breast badges?!! I can't see them very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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