Megan Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Орден ЖуковаInstituted: 9 May 1994.Awarded: To commanders of Russian armed forces for distinguished services in the defence of the Russian Federation.Ribbon: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Is this a GOVERNMENT award or one of the knickknacks peddled by the delusional lunatics who assert that they are the Presidium of the "Soviet Union?"It is so ghastly, I wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megan Posted March 15, 2009 Author Share Posted March 15, 2009 Government one. But that does not guarantee that they'll design things to your taste... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 True. But think how nice it would be if we WERE the International Aesthetic Design Board instead of whoever is doing it now! The iconography here is... OFF-- even by Russian standards. The rivetted shield design here is the "traditional" emblem of State Security and the variously-incarnately police apparatus. NOTHING whatsoever to do with Soviet/Russian MILITARY at all. That's what made me and wonder if it was one of the Parallel Universe jobs.Completely inappropriate design that should never have made the semi-finals. :speechless: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megan Posted March 15, 2009 Author Share Posted March 15, 2009 Inclined to agree... Interestingly it's the only 'new' award that comes in the Soviet style of a pin-on breast badge (although they hung onto a few of the old ones with the red stars, hammers & sickles etc. ripped off). Hopefully they'll ditch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacHel Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 I agree 100%. The design leaves a lot to be desired and has no relation to the military. For such a crude design to be used for such an esteemed military leader is beyond me. Especially for a high Order.The date of institution being so early following the creation of the Federation, it is quite possible that some malcontent in the wood pile reached into the waste basket of rejected designs and slapped the poor marshal's face on it simply for expediency's sake. Anyway, it sure looks that way.And Rick is right on the money, this looks like it's right out of the FSB/KGB design bureau... When you look at Russian Federation awards, the early ones that came out under president Yeltsin seem rather crude and quickly thrown together, like previously mentioned, most probably for expediency's sake.A governmental heraldry service was created in early 2000 and since them the designs of awards have greatly improved. Many state symbols have also been completely redone, including many military emblems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacHel Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Found a picture of the new, smaller, ribbon mounted Order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Lower quality than the first... the enamel on that second one sucks,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megan Posted August 25, 2012 Author Share Posted August 25, 2012 So they've stuck to the same atrocious design! Gack, hoped they would take the opportunity to retool to something more appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 New design (on medal bar) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Order #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Enamel on the lower ray was destroyed ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry T Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 The design certainly leaves a lot to be desired. The new Russian awards seem to be a odd collection of good and awful styles. Most of the USSR awards that were retained such as Ushakov, Nakhimov, Suvarov and Kutuzov are, not just step back, but a giant leap back. Yet the Nevski is quite attractive, as is the Merit to the Fatherland. The "Friendship" is bad; they should have adapted the USSR design. And "Puskin" looks like a cartoon sheep, simply awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 What the heck is "Puskin" dear Jerry?! Cheers, Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry T Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 the Pushkin medal, sorry bad spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Well Jerry, you wouldn't believe, but this is exact reproduction of Pushkin self-portrait from his diary see http://www.primetour.ua/files/Pushkin_avtoportret.jpg On the medal obverse Pushkin looks like ... Pushkin see http://www.sobiratel.net/zasluga/Russia/RF/RF/Pushkin/Puskin.jpg By the way - this is very rare medal. Between 1999 and 2013 only 774 medals were issued! Cheers, Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacHel Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Nick's correct in his assessment of the Pushkin medal. There was no "botched" design (for lack of a better word), this is an actual self portrait and it has proved quite fitting to the recipients of the award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogi Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Its rare in a bad way They probobly realised no one liked receiving it You know its bad when China doesn't even want to copy these ! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Nick's correct in his assessment of the Pushkin medal You don't say! His mother grandad was from Africa. That's why he has such extravagant (for russian) profile ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) Its rare in a bad way They probobly realised no one liked receiving it Obviously they should put something nice on obverse (like maple leaf or puck) instead of the man profile (to whom this medal is devoted) You know its bad when China doesn't even want to copy these ! lol Now let's apply this rigorous criterion to canadian medals Edited March 24, 2013 by JapanX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogi Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) Obviously they should put something nice on obverse (like maple leaf or puck) instead of the man profile (to whom this medal is devoted) Now let's apply this rigorous criterion to canadian medals Since Canada is my home and my origin is from Europe, I think I have some experience to comment the good and bad of design (St Sava being one of the most beautiful medals my origin from Serbia has done) hehehe I'm talking from experience ! Canada has some of the worst coin and medal designs in history lol but also some of the most beautiful. Therefore, we know what is hit or miss, low mintage doesn't mean people will end up collecting it if its ugly. Then again, The Maple leaf is a nice symbol on a coin. I've never seen a puck on a coin without being accompanied by the hockey stick There are some hits and misses in medal design but the Pushkin design that was commented on certainly isnt a hit yet to some it might be, something odd and strange in design is sometimes desirable to other, I love my Omega PloProf, but others hate it. Its hard to comment on something and say you don't like it when its from your country of origin I guess the Pushkin could be one of these. We have to look on the bright side, at least no one has chosen a lot of Abstract design on a medal or coin lol one that is brought to mind is that strange "Voice of Fire" in our National Art Gallery, that is just a huge line down the center of the canvas (blue,red,blue in it's colors), crazy something you, or I, or the kids can do can fetch 1.8mil "Voice of Fire", theres a reason theres only 1 of these types of artists out there. Its an odd painting yet makes you think and discuss all the same time At least the Canadian Olympic medals for Vancouver looked nice in their abstract form, trying to evoke a new design. Edited March 24, 2013 by Rogi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Since Canada is my home and my origin is from Europe, I think I have some experience to comment the good and bad of design Gotcha! There are some hits and misses in medal design but the Pushkin design that was commented on certainly isnt a hit The only element of "Pushkin medal design" is Pushkin profile... Looks like you simply don't like how he looks in profile :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogi Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Gotcha! The only element of "Pushkin medal design" is Pushkin profile... Looks like you simply don't like how he looks in profile Definatley not the front especially when its an award for art, culture,education,humanities, literature, could of at least put a better image of him on it I do like the reverse with his signature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 ...could of at least put a better image of him on it Let's hope pushkinists will never read this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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