SergioV Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Thank you for the advice Paul hope one day you will show us your cabinet i am very curious to see Nick you mean that for not expensive medal is not needed a cabinet? if you mean this I do not agree with you, a collection, as all the various collections in the world are made up of many pieces put together with dedication and passion by the collector, because he loves his medals and his orders, and certainly does not want them but in a drawer but in a cabinet, in a frame, display etc. .. so no matter if a piece is worth 10 or 1000 in order to be worthy to stand in a display to the delight of the eyes. each piece for small or inexpensive as it is, has its own story to tell if you know how to read.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 so no matter if a piece is worth 10 or 1000 in order to be worthy to stand in a display to the delight of the eyes. each piece for small or inexpensive as it is, has its own story to tell if you know how to read.. Yes, it's not the price, but aesthetic and historical value behind this or that piece . Unfortunately thousands of unofficial RF medals lack both completely ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Now about how many 300th Anniversary medals were issued. On the eve of anniversary 160 000 medals were awarded. It toto approximately 500 000 were issued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioV Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Unfortunately thousands of unofficial RF medals lack both completely ... What you mean Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioV Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Now about how many 300th Anniversary medals were issued. On the eve of anniversary 160 000 medals were awarded. It toto approximately 500 000 were issued. ohh nice news Nick thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 What you mean Nick These unofficial awards can be bought together with blank docs and for extra money even with correctly filled docs with the name of buyer in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioV Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 yes i know there are a lot of unofficial medals, i dont like and i have only 2 of these medals here there is a panoramic list http://www.omsa.org/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=1044&page=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioV Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 are called Umalatova correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacHel Posted November 12, 2013 Author Share Posted November 12, 2013 Umalatovas are but a tiny percentage of the unofficial medals out there. These are the so-called UMALATOVAS UMALATOVAS http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=43341 Russian Awards Committee http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=43379 There are many more groups dishing out unofficial medals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioV Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Thank for the exaustive answer TacHel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 are called Umalatova correct? No, it isn't. Correct "official" name for these will be Awards of the Permanent Bureau of the Congress of people's deputies of the USSR / Награды Постоянного Президиума Съезда народных депутатов СССР "Ulmalatovskiye" awards or simply "Ulmalatovky" is collectors slang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioV Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 ohh perfect thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Did everyone in the Navy receive one of these at the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 (edited) Not everyone, but those who faultlessly served in navy aviation for 10 and more years or others branches of navy for 20 and more years or were previously awarded with RF decorations. Original statute "... военнослужащие, состоящие на службе в Военно-Морском Флоте, морских силах Федеральной пограничной службы Российской Федерации, если они удостоены государственных наград Российской Федерации , РСФСР, СССР и безупречно прослужили на кораблях и на должностях летного состава морской авиации 10, а в других морских частях 20 и более лет в календарном исчислении на день вступления в силу указа о награждении, военнослужащие Военно-Морского Флота, принимавшие участие в боевых действиях с немецко-фашистскими захватчиками и японскими милитаристами в 19411945 годах, адмиралы, генералы, офицеры, мичманы (прапорщики), старшины и матросы, состоящие в запасе (отставке), уволенные из Вооруженных Сил Российской Федерации, Вооруженных Сил СССР, Федеральной пограничной службы Российской Федерации, пограничных войск КГБ СССР, если они удостоены государственных наград Российской Федерации, РСФСР, СССР и безупречно прослужили в Военно-Морском Флоте, морских силах Федеральной пограничной службы Российской Федерации, морских частях пограничных войск КГБ СССР на кораблях и на должностях летного состава морской авиации 10, а в других морских частях 20 и более лет в календарном исчислении ..." Edited November 23, 2013 by JapanX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Nice! So these are pretty rare. Someone had to meet all of those criteria during specifically 1996? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Rare? Not really, since according to statute this medal was also issued to "...admirals, generals, officers, warrant officers (ensigns), sailors and petty officers who are in reserve (retired) or that were discharged from the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the Armed Forces of the USSR, the Federal Border Service of the Russian Federation or Naval Border Troops of the KGB, if they were previously awarded state awards of the Russian Federation, RSFSR or USSR and impeccably served in the Navy, Marines or Naval Forces of the Federal Border Service of the Russian Federation or Naval Border Troops of the KGB on ships or in naval aviation for 10 years or more or in other parts of the navy for 20 years or more; to civilian personnel on support ships of the Navy, seafarers and marine scientists, of river, fishing, research, or expeditionary fleets, if they previously received state awards of the Russian Federation, RSFSR or USSR and worked flawlessly on vessels for 15 years or more, to designers, developers, managers of design bureaus, research institutions and organizations, educational institutions, heads of central government shipbuilding industry, the workers of basic professions directly involved in the construction and repair of ships and vessels, if they previously received state awards of the Russian Federation, RSFSR or the USSR and worked flawlessly in their area of specialty or profession for 20 years or more, to heads of the central basin management bodies, heads of research institutions, educational institutions, sea, river, fishing, research, and expeditionary fleets, if they previously received state awards of the Russian Federation, RSFSR or USSR and worked flawlessly in these areas for more than 20 years" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 But how many people fit this criteria in that one year? The bulk of the military were non career folks. IT would mainly be the 1% that stayed to make a 20 year career, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 At least 160 000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 By the way, I don`t recommend to pick at these ... Otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JapanX Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 On the other hand - new variation. Kinda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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paul wood Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Get rid of the crap on the supension and it looks a lot less trashy in bronze. Had they not bothered to plate it they would have saved money and made a nicer medal to boot.Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacHel Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 By the way, I don`t recommend to pick at these ... Otherwise IMG_7056.JPG IMG_7056c.JPG Aw... I was hoping for chocolate... Dang! I wasn't expecting that!! Talk about cheap plating... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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