Robin Lumsden Posted June 14, 2013 Author Posted June 14, 2013 Freikorps Elisabeth, 1919 ................
Chip Posted July 27, 2013 Posted July 27, 2013 Stefan, Very unusual indeed. To what factors do you attribute the fact that the buckle body is in such different condition than the roundel insignia? Would you show the reverse side? Respectfully, Chip
Sergeant 08 Posted July 27, 2013 Posted July 27, 2013 (edited) Stefan, Very unusual indeed. To what factors do you attribute the fact that the buckle body is in such different condition than the roundel insignia? Would you show the reverse side? Respectfully, Chip Chip, I had the same question, when I have seen it first time. It came with other Wehrwolf originals from an attic find in Saxony and it was never in a collection before. Got some other things from that find, too. It was already posted in other forums and all buckle experts liked it. The buckle details are fine and it was confirmed as an untouched original. The collector experts explained the condition with the different materials of buckle body / roundel and the adverse storage conditions during last 80 years. Edited July 27, 2013 by Sergeant 08
Sergeant 08 Posted July 27, 2013 Posted July 27, 2013 (edited) From the same source. A collector saved it before an old lady could throw it away in trash. All objects came from her father who was soldier in ww1 and he was member in "Der Wehrwolf - Bund deutscher Männer und Frontkrieger" later. Edited July 27, 2013 by Sergeant 08
Sergeant 08 Posted July 27, 2013 Posted July 27, 2013 Super items. Thanks for the further information. Chip Thanks Chip! Such attic discoveries are rarer and rarer today. But it is still out there.
Sergeant 08 Posted July 27, 2013 Posted July 27, 2013 (edited) This badge was already posted in this thread a few months before. I could manage to get it for my collection. Edited July 27, 2013 by Sergeant 08
Robin Lumsden Posted July 27, 2013 Author Posted July 27, 2013 (edited) Stefan.Congratulations !! Edited July 27, 2013 by Robin Lumsden
Sergeant 08 Posted July 27, 2013 Posted July 27, 2013 Stefan. Congratulations !! Thanks Robin! It looks very similar to the so called "Rastatt skull officer pattern". The only difference seems to be the field-gray cloth oval. They sewed my skull directly to the sleeve. I think both skulls were unifom removed.
Robin Lumsden Posted July 28, 2013 Author Posted July 28, 2013 Hello Stefan.Yours is like the Rastatt TK .................. but cut out from the oval.A rare officer item!Welcome to the original FW-TK club !! ;)
Sergeant 08 Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) Hello Stefan. Yours is like the Rastatt TK .................. but cut out from the oval. A rare officer item! Welcome to the original FW-TK club !! Question is, how you can find out the difference? The difference between a cut out from the oval and a cut out of a skull, that was directly sewed to the sleeve in past?? Most officer photos shows directly sewed skulls on sleeves without oval. But I think those skulls had a border of field grey material, too. Up to now I have it not in my hands for an final answer. Edited July 28, 2013 by Sergeant 08
dante Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 An Austrian one (if anyone has a badge for sale please let me know)
Sergeant 08 Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 An Austrian one (if anyone has a badge for sale please let me know) Paul, not easy to find a nice original Austrian Sturmtrupp badge, but no "mission impossible".
Hoss Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 Hello Stefan. Yours is like the Rastatt TK .................. but cut out from the oval. A rare officer item! Welcome to the original FW-TK club !! Stefan Thank you for showing those items very interesting the badge is gorgeous. Eric
Robin Lumsden Posted July 29, 2013 Author Posted July 29, 2013 Most officer photos shows directly sewed skulls on sleeves without oval.Officers with and without ovals ................
Sergeant 08 Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 Stefan Thank you for showing those items very interesting the badge is gorgeous. Eric Yes, it is! I'm really happy that I could get it.
Sergeant 08 Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 (edited) Officers with and without ovals ................ Correct, both skull types were used. Edited July 29, 2013 by Sergeant 08
Sergeant 08 Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 (edited) Another interesting photo. Left, skull on sleeve of an officer, a skull on oval, it looks like the dark grey skull pattern for enlisted men. Right, sleeve of an NCO, looks like the embroidered officer skull without oval. Edited July 29, 2013 by Sergeant 08
Sergeant 08 Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 The thread was started many years ago. Don't know if that photo was already posted here before?
dond Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 An Austrian one (if anyone has a badge for sale please let me know) I sent you a pm the other day....
Robin Lumsden Posted July 31, 2013 Author Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) '''''''''''' Edited July 31, 2013 by Robin Lumsden
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