OK........... I saw it..... there is the Puloulou between the two crossarms , the holy stick of irgendwas..... but then it must be a knight because all other classes are neck order and breast crosses... maybe the clasp is for foreigners ??? But then I have only 4 names to offer..... Geißler - got it 1885 and after that up to 1899 about 10 more orders..... NO da Fonseca-Wollheim - got it 1880 and after that up to 1899 about 10 more orders... NO von Usedom - got it 1879 and after that up