demir Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 HELLO, I BOUGHT THIS BAR RECENTLY. I THINK IT WAS GIVEN TO A GERMAN ENGINEER BUILDING THE HIDJAS RAILWAY. demir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paul R Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 That is a great bar! I have never seen those last two medals before. I bet that they are both very rare. Do you know the number of those lifesaving and rail road medals awarded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demir Posted October 4, 2009 Author Share Posted October 4, 2009 (edited) That is a great bar! I have never seen those last two medals before. I bet that they are both very rare. Do you know the number of those lifesaving and rail road medals awarded? HELLO, NICKEL RAILWAY IS APP. 30.000, LIFE SAVING I HAVE NO DATA. BUT I THINK THE BAR IS MADE BY THE OWNER. BECAUSE THE RIBBONS OF THE OTTOMAN MEDALS ARE NOT ORIGINAL COLORS. RAILWAY RIBBON COLOR IS: GOLD- RED, SILVER- GREEN, NICKEL- RED AND LIFE SAVING RIBBON COLOR DEPENDS THE NUMBER OF BRAVERIES SHOWN: 1- GREEN 2- RED 3- WHITE AND 4 OR MORE TIMES ALL THREE COLORS. ALSO, THE DATES MAKE IT INTERESTING BECAUSE GERMAN MEDALS MUST HAVE BEEN GIVEN AT LEAST 6 YEARS LATER, BECAUSE THE IRON CROSS IS DATED 1914. SO either THE PERSON WHO HAD THIS BAR WORKED IN THE RAILWAYS AND LATER FOUGHT IN THE WWI or SOMEONE CREATED A scenario demir Edited October 5, 2009 by demir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I know the seller and am pretty sure it was not him who made the bar, on the other hand I cannot swear it is old and real assembled bar. Who knows, after all that time. However, with rare foreign medals, we see often non-matching ribbons on German medal bars - as well on original ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 The ribbon for the second German award is that of the 1920s Kyffhäuserbundmedaille-- and not the ,,Treu dem Regiment" Kreuz on there now. Exotic foreign awards often baffled German outfitters. The 1905/1911 Bavarian Army Luitpold Jubilee Medal ribbon in last place was frequently pressed into service as just about anything Ottoman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 The 1905/1911 Bavarian Army Luitpold Jubilee Medal ribbon in last place was frequently pressed into service as just about anything Ottoman! Any if that were not funny enough, I have yet seen a German ~1936 group that used a Romanian ribbon instead of the mentioned Bavarian... Outfitters! :speechless: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demir Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 I know the seller and am pretty sure it was not him who made the bar, on the other hand I cannot swear it is old and real assembled bar. Who knows, after all that time. However, with rare foreign medals, we see often non-matching ribbons on German medal bars - as well on original ones. Hi, I asked the seller, but did not receive a reply so :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avsaribar Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Dear Demir Abi , Hurmetler , Honestly , i can not say that i like this bar either.. The Hicaz Railway is not on the Hicaz Railway ribbon , it must be a pink ribbon on a bar , and the Life saving (Tahlisiye Medal)'s ribbon is absolutely wrong , must NOT be lined , it must be a soft plain green ribbon... All the best , Avsar Ibar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demir Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 Dear Demir Abi , Hurmetler , Honestly , i can not say that i like this bar either.. The Hicaz Railway is not on the Hicaz Railway ribbon , it must be a pink ribbon on a bar , and the Life saving (Tahlisiye Medal)'s ribbon is absolutely wrong , must NOT be lined , it must be a soft plain green ribbon... All the best , Avsar Ibar Dear Avsar, Yes I know as I have mentioned these concernes of mine in my earlier thread. The main reason why I bought this bar was the value of the medals on it seperately. Now I have 3 medals 1. Iron Cross 2. Hicaz railway 3. Life saving I used the ribbons for the medals which they belonged and add real ribbons from my stock on the above mentioned medals. All the best demir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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