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750 USD!!!

170212030715

:speechless1:

I know!!!!! This is NUTZ!!!!

I bought a 2nd award for $730 not two or three months ago!!!!!!

There must have been some drunk people bidding again!!!

JC

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Good luck with your Mongolian quest but I think that the C05 will be very very hard to find now.....

I was lucky I got into this early but I haven't seen one in over a year, maybe longer.....

I think there are only about 400 of these out there, but you never know you might get lucky...

Cheers

JC

Unfortunately have to second JC on this. I have one (unnumbered / undocumented) and haven't seen one for sale since I got it (over a year ago?) except for this past week when I spotted a documented (incl. photograph / choibalsan autograph) one for sale. Asking price >2.500 USD :speechless1: That's a lot for a small (but important) badge!

Now the asking price MAY have been a bit excessive... but who's to say when there's no other on offer?

My advice: grab one next time you spot one.

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http://www.visualrian.com/images/item/38687

Marshal Horlogiyn Choybalsan decorates Senior Lieutenant L. Orlov with an order

Marshal of the Mongolian People's Republic Horlogiyn Choybalsan (left) decorates Senior Lieutenant L. Orlov with the Red Banner Order for fighting in the battle of Khalkhin Gol.

Location: Mongolia

Date of event: 01.05.1939

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Yumzhagiyen Tsedenbal decorates the Air Colonel General Alexander Pokryshkin with the order

Chairman of the Mongolian Council of Ministers Yumzhagiyen Tsedenbal (left) decorates the Hero of the Soviet Union, Air Colonel General Alexander Pokryshkin (right) with the Red Banner Order.

Location: Russia, Moscow

Date of event: 01.12.1971

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Oh . . . lovely :love: -- this is one of the nicest things I have seen recently! :jumping::jumping:

So, to revise:

THE ORDER OF MILITARY VALOR (A21)

1st award - (small star, 3 maker?s marks, no s/n)

2nd award - (Arabic number ?2? at bottom)

3rd award - (Arabic number ?3? at bottom)

4th award - (Arabic number ?4? at bottom)

ORDER OF THE RED BANNER OF MILITARY VALOUR (A21.2/A21.3)

1st award

Type 1 (large star, МОНДВОР, s/n No) - Low = 188; High = 613

Type 2 (large star, МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР, s/n No) - Low = 318; High = ??

2nd award - (large star, Mongolian number 2) - Low = ??; High = 69

3rd award - (large star, Mongolian number 3, not seen?) - Low = ??; High = ??

4th award - (large star, Mongolian number 4, not seen?) - Low = ??; High = ??

ORDER OF THE RED BANNER OF MILITARY VALOUR (A22 varieties)

1st award

Type 1.1 (МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; 3 rivets) - Low= 13; High=212

Type 1.2.1 (МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; 4 rivets; SN at 6 o'clock near bottom) - Low = 306; High = 2401

Type 1.2.2 (МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; 4 rivets; SN directly below screwpost) - Low = 1007; High = 2581 (these may not be a true variety, just manufacturing randomness?)

2nd award - Low = 53; High = 56

3rd award - Low = ??; High = ??

4th award - (МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; SN at 6 o'clock near bottom; 4 rivets) - Low = 74; High = 150

ORDER OF THE RED BANNER OF MILITARY VALOUR (Baildaani gav'yaany ulaan tugiin odon) (A23 varieties)

1st award

Type 1.1 (Screwback; 3 rivets; SN just below screwpost) - Low = 50; High = 2794

Type 1.2 (as above, but with Cyrillic ?B? mintmark) - Low = 1332; High = 1955

Type 2.1 (Pinback 3 rivets; SN at 12 o'clock) - Low = 3160; High = 4449

Type 2.2 (Pinback 2 rivets; SN at 5 o'clock) - Low = 4584; High = 5392

Type 3.1 (pinback, bronze) - Low = 5512; High = 5607

Type 3.2 (pinback, bronze, unnumbered, escapee?)

2nd award - (Screwback; 3 rivets; SN just below screwpost ? perhaps 40 awarded?) - Low = 12; High = 398

3rd award - (Screwback; 3 rivets; SN just below screwpost ? perhaps 10-15 awarded?) - Low = 5; High = 200

4th award - (Screwback; 3 rivets; SN just below screwpost ? perhaps 4-5 awarded?) - Low = 3; High = 86

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Ok... I'm excited about this!!!!

Here are two normal looking slightly damaged ORCBs...

One was cheap and one really really wasn't, but I just had to have them...

Yes, I'm a serial number junky!!!!

Enjoy!

JC

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So noted. Yummy.

Pending research. Wow. RESEARCH!??!?!?!

:speechless1::speechless1::jumping::jumping::jumping:

I can only imagine who the lucky man was that got this one.....

On that note... any word on research???

I sent this picture to Dr.B a little while back and he was also rather interested... I think you'll see why.

1926-1931 Order of Military Valour 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th awards!!!!!!!

JC

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:jumping: :jumping::jumping::jumping:

Who the hell is that?!?!?!?! (Is my suspicion right? Choibalsan [young]?)

Confirmation (un-retouched!) of the Arabic-numbered awards.

You have made my MONTH (not day, not week)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:jumping::jumping::jumping::jumping:

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:jumping::jumping::jumping::jumping:

Who the hell is that?!?!?!?! (Is my suspicion right? Choibalsan [young]?)

Confirmation (un-retouched!) of the Arabic-numbered awards.

You have made my MONTH (not day, not week)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:jumping::jumping::jumping::jumping:

Glad that I could make your Month Ed!!!!

I too was very very happy when I finally got the thing... It took more than a bit of effort to get it and if you may remember, this picture was on ebay a while back. I tracked down the original purchaser who had the auction ended early and got it from him... And a nice profit for him too.....Worth it though!

Choibalsan as we haven't seen him before.....

JC

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"Type 1.2 (as above, but with Cyrillic ?B? mintmark) - Low = 1332; High = 1955"

Ed, could you please examplify this? Where is that Cyrillic "B" located? And is that a kind of "B" but as if seen in a mirror, usually seen together with a perfect circle, as for example the one shown on Post #48 on this thread?

Asking because if that's the case I happen to (still) have S/N 2015, shown somewhere on another thread.

Thanks,

Dolf

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ebay Item number: 250418436595

"4 Orders identical people obtain. Mongolian senior general, Yu Ren Duo "

Hmmm.... :unsure:

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ebay Item number: 250418436595

"4 Orders identical people obtain. Mongolian senior general, Yu Ren Duo "

Hmmm.... :unsure:

Please pardon my French!!

What a steaming pile of horse ^#$^%!!!

He's been trying to sell those orders for years and we know that the serial numbers of the 2nd, 3rd, 4th awards all fall OUTSIDE of the awarded range....

The seller is getting creative!!

JC

ps. sorry, done ranting!

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