RedMaestro Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 (edited) Gentlemen, I am excited to post the first Mongolian group in my collection! It consists of the following: Documents only: Medal for the 40th Anniversary of Khalkin Gol Medal for the 70th Anniversary to Mongolian State Medal for the 60th Anniversary to Mongolian Army Medal for 40 Years of the Mongolian People's Republic #14120 Unknown (?) Document and medal: Soviet Combat Merit Medal Scans to come in the following posts! Before I bought the group, I checked the name of the recipient, Sharavyn Jamsranjav, against the research Bob had for the Suurin Baldan group (thanks, Bob! ). Sure enough, Jamsranjav is listed as a Lieutenant Colonel on the top of page 13 (see post #43 on the linked thread). As far as I know this is the first Soviet combat merit medal and document awarded to a Mongolian that we have actually seen. I have managed to figure out what four of the Mongolian documents are from looking around the forum. Could someone please help with the last one? There is also some faint pencil writing on the back of some of the documents, if anyone could please translate. Any other insight is also greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance! Alex Edited February 20, 2010 by RedMaestro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMaestro Posted February 20, 2010 Author Share Posted February 20, 2010 First, the Soviet document: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RedMaestro Posted February 20, 2010 Author Share Posted February 20, 2010 (edited) The document I am unsure of (top row, center, right under the medal in the scan of the entire group above). Note the 2001 award date. Help identifying this one please! Thanks! Edited February 20, 2010 by RedMaestro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMaestro Posted February 20, 2010 Author Share Posted February 20, 2010 (edited) 60th Anniversary to Mongolian Army and 40th Anniversary of Khalkin Gol medal documents. Any idea what that says on the back of the Khalkin Gol document? Edited February 20, 2010 by RedMaestro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMaestro Posted February 20, 2010 Author Share Posted February 20, 2010 (edited) 70th Anniversary to Mongolian State and 40 Years of the Mongolian People's Republic #14120 medal documents. Writing on the back is from the 70th Anniversary document (scan edited for better contrast). Any ideas? Thanks! Edited February 20, 2010 by RedMaestro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Excellent - wish we could know more about him :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMaestro Posted February 21, 2010 Author Share Posted February 21, 2010 Ed has identified the unknown document as being for the "War Veteran" badge (C45), as it is called in Dr. Battushig's book. There appears to be very little other info. Any help with this award, either more about it or a translation of the document, would be very much appreciated! I am going to try getting this group researched by name in the Soviet archives. -Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMaestro Posted February 22, 2010 Author Share Posted February 22, 2010 Ed has identified the unknown document as being for the "War Veteran" badge (C45), as it is called in Dr. Battushig's book. There appears to be very little other info. Any help with this award, either more about it or a translation of the document, would be very much appreciated! A Mongolian member on another forum ("Muugii1234" from SMAPF) translated the "War Veteran" document as: "Dear Mister Sh.Jamsranjav, For your consecutive dedication to the military service and for contribution to develop the defence sector hereby award you ‘’war veteran medal’’ by order—2001 March 01 of Minister of Defence. Ministry of Defence 2001 march 01 Ulaanbaatar" I also commented that the badge name, "War Veteran," didn't seem to fit with a 2003 award to a soldier who had no combat experience, to which "Muugii" responded: "Your assumption might be true because we Mongolians have a custom that every organization and office receives their pensioners after the lunar new year celebration annually, often award them like this medal." Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsend Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 The proper translation for this medal is "Veteran" of the Mongolian armed Forces. The medal, which has the status of the ministry-level award, is awarded to retired officers of the Mongolian Armed Forces. It has nothing to do with the War veteran badge or medal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsend Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 I would also take the liberty and add the translation of the hand-written note on the back of the cover of the Award Card for one of the medals. It says "Bold (person's name) stole it and sold it". Probably written by the veteran or a family member. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 I would also take the liberty and add the translation of the hand-written note on the back of the cover of the Award Card for one of the medals. It says "Bold (person's name) stole it and sold it". Probably written by the veteran or a family member. Sad. Huh? that doesn;t make sense... why would the person who stole it write it? and how could the person from whom it was stolen write it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMaestro Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 Further research for this group has come up empty, unfortunately. Tsend, a belated thank you for the translation! Indeed, the stolen medal is sad news. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 My interpretation of the written comment is that the recipient had the actual medal stolen and sold by "Bold" but he still had his documents.... hope those were not stolen from him as well. The amount of theft that is going on over ODM is extremely disturbing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Further research for this group has come up empty, unfortunately. Tsend, a belated thank you for the translation! Indeed, the stolen medal is sad news. Alex Got another Mongolian group with a Soviet Combat medal (well, the document for one, unfortunately not the medal itself); awarded on the same date as yours. http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/60269-major-yondon-nanzaddorj-sovietmongolian-cross-over-group-of-documents/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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