GdI Friedrich Olbricht Awards

[Alexandre]

Hello Gentlemen,

Im trying to identify some awards of Gdi Olbricht in this pic of him (Source Bundesarchiv)

I recognize these:

1914 EK II mit spange

Ritterkreuz des Kgl. Sächs. Militär St. Heinrichs-Ordens

Ritterkreuz II. Klasse des Kgl. Sächs. Verdienstordens mit Schwertern

Ritterkreuz I. Klasse des Kgl. Sächs. Albrechts-Ordens mit Schwertern

Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer

Kriegsverdienstkreuz II. Klasse mit Schwertern

Wehrmacht-Dienstauszeichnung IV. und II. Klasse

Others:

Austrian Anexation medal ?

??

Hungarian WW1 Commemorative medal ??

Last have small piece, hard to identificate

Anyone can help me to identificate these ribbons ? or have a complete list of decorations of Olbricht ??

Thx in advance

Regards

[webr55]

Hello Alexandre,

I started a small thread on Olbricht a while ago, but couldn't identify all of his awards:

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3765

He definitely had a number of foreign decorations too, so the one behind his Hungarian Commem should be foreign.

Here's a pic with his medal bar:

Regards

Chris

[Arnim]

<BR style="mso-special-character: line-break">This is Olbricht's ribbon bar

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1. EKII 1914 with 1939 Spange

2. Ritterkreuz des Militär-St. Heinrichs-Ordens

3. Ritterkreuz I. Klasse des Albrechts-Ordens mit Schwertern

4. Ritterkreuz II. Klasse des Sächsischen Verdienstordens mit Schwertern

5. Ritterkreuz II. Klasse des Albrechts-Ordens mit Schwertern

6. Ehremkreuz

7. Treudienst – I Klasse

8. Treudienst – III Klasse

9. Anschluss

10. Sudentenland

11. Hungary – WWI Remembrance

12. Bulgaria – WWI Remembrance

[P.F.]

The 10th ribbon on the ribbon bar does not look like a Sudetenland ribbon to me ...it looks like a plain ribbon, with no stripes etc. Maybe it denotes one of his foreign awards? It would be in a suitable place if so!

Kind regards

Pierce

[Arnim]

Ribbons often look wrong in black and white photos. These are his (ribbon bar) awards.

Arnim

[Alexandre]

Hello

The 10th ribbon definitely isn´t a Sudetenland medal.

the ribbon on picture is colored by equal, sudetenland has the sides most dark.

See a sample in black and white of as would be:

[Alexandre]

Looking around the other ribbons of Olbricht, the 10th ribbon it might be red when, it more seemed to the coloration of other ribbons that we can be reddened.

Social welfare medal maybe.

Edited April 9, 2010 by Alexandre

[Arnim]

I didn't go by the picture - I went by the awards he had.

A.

[M Hunter]

Looking around the other ribbons of Olbricht, the 10th ribbon it might be red when, it more seemed to the coloration of other ribbons that we can be reddened.

Social welfare medal maybe.

Don't think it could be that as it was red with white stripes. The 10th ribbon appears to be the one colour.

Matt

Edited April 10, 2010 by M Hunter

[M Hunter]

I didn't go by the picture - I went by the awards he had.

A.

He may not have mounted alll of his awards or had them all put on to his ribbon bar. Wasn't uncommon that these bars were not updated.

Matt

[Arnim]

Trying to determine a soldier's ribbons from a photograph is very difficult at best, folly at worst. The way to determine the awards on a specific bar in a photo requires one to first date the photo. Trying to identify awards from a photo alone won't work. A good example is von Rundstedt. He had different ribbon bars for different unforms! His Sudetenland ribbon didn't look "right"either (when he wore it). Look at Rommel's single Italian ribbon. It is solid blue. In the photos it looks like "stripes." His award is the silver bravey medal which takes a blue ribbon.

My advice: forget the photos - rely on the records.

The awards I cited for this officer are correct.

Arnim

[M Hunter]

Trying to determine a soldier's ribbons from a photograph is very difficult at best, folly at worst. The way to determine the awards on a specific bar in a photo requires one to first date the photo. Trying to identify awards from a photo alone won't work. A good example is von Rundstedt. He had different ribbon bars for different unforms! His Sudetenland ribbon didn't look "right"either (when he wore it). Look at Rommel's single Italian ribbon. It is solid blue. In the photos it looks like "stripes." His award is the silver bravey medal which takes a blue ribbon.

My advice: forget the photos - rely on the records.

The awards I cited for this officer are correct.

Arnim

Arnim,

I do agree with you to rely on the records and was in no way saying your information was inaccurate just because it doesn't "seem" to match the above photo. At best it is difficult to determine the exact combination on a ribbon bar unless the picture is crystal clear.....or in colour!

Kind regards

Matt

Edited April 11, 2010 by M Hunter

[Alexandre]

Hello Gentlemen, thx a lot for all infos.

I agree with you. Searching in records is more easy to find the awards.

BTW, can anyone provide a list of foreign awards of Olbricht?

Thx in advance

Cheers

Edited April 11, 2010 by Alexandre