douglynn Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 this guy was well used up untill 46 most likely by the allies as pay entries up untill then looks like he was a flak man,and one entry for fallschirmjager school bit to old for jump school so maybe just trained some of them??i have his award docs as well if interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglynn Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 this guy was well used up untill 46 most likely by the allies as pay entries up untill then looks like he was a flak man,and one entry for fallschirmjager school bit to old for jump school so maybe just trained some of them??i have his award docs as well if interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglynn Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 falsch entry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I am very interested! Please post everything!RegardsPaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Yes indeed, assignments and all-- we never get to see exactly what these specialists DID, or where and when! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglynn Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 ok few more bits what looks like payment of some kind and some promotion docs if you can help please do and i was wrong he was still in payment in 47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglynn Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 promo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglynn Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 promo2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglynn Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 and payment of some kind??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Yes, #6 concerns retroactive pay because of seniority.#7 promotes him from Flieger-Ingenieur to Flieger-Oberingenieur and is hand signed by Knight's Cross (18.9.41) winner Generaloberst (19.7.40) Hans-J?rgen "Stumpff" (1889-1968)#8 promotion from above to Flieger-Hauptingenieur-- the signature on this one eludes me at the moment, since Luftwaffe is not my best area. #9 concerns pay rates based on seniority in grade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglynn Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 thanks rick another question would he have ever been a flier on his collar tabbs he has propeler blades??thanks again for all the info on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I've seen Honor Goblets awarded to officials in this technical corps, but he seems to have been in WHATEVER that flak-related organization was from 1938 to 1945.Now show us his award documents! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglynn Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 gonna make myself look such a fool here i thought that they where his award docs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Nothing foolish here! Very nice documentation grouping here. The first I have seen for an Engineer!Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Orchard Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 What does the TLR mean in OKL chef TLR? some department of the OKL i would assume and whatever department it was he was then the Flak E2 officer (second engineering officer i guess, a staff position) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luftguy Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 thanks rick another question would he have ever been a flier on his collar tabbs he has propeler blades??thanks again for all the info on himAll Pre-war Engineering Tabs had propellers. This is a closeup of the Rank of the man you posted. The only Difference is these have a blue edge for reserves.Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglynn Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 All Pre-war Engineering Tabs had propellers. This is a closeup of the Rank of the man you posted. The only Difference is these have a blue edge for reserves.Bill thanks that helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Orchard Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 (edited) found it. OKL Chef TLR is Oberkommando der Luftwaffe, Chef der Technischen Luftr?stung.These fellas were the people involved in the development of new weapons and equipment. As he was in the Flak department that could mean some form of involvment in things like the V-1 and V-2 but also other equipment being developed for the flak arm.Great potential for further research there Doug, i know at least some TLR archives exist at the NARA archives in the US.Are there no decorations recorded in his SB? Not even a lowly KVK? Edited January 4, 2006 by Simon Orchard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglynn Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 found it. OKL Chef TLR is Oberkommando der Luftwaffe, Chef der Technischen Luftr?stung.These fellas were the people involved in the development of new weapons and equipment. As he was in the Flak department that could mean some form of involvment in things like the V-1 and V-2 but also other equipment being developed for the flak arm.Great potential for further research there Doug, i know at least some TLR archives exist at the NARA archives in the US.Are there no decorations recorded in his SB? Not even a lowly KVK? no not that i can see ???could this be a second issue??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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