Thomas W Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Is this an "M"? If so, does it stand for "Musketen-Bataillon"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I am only beginning my study of German Imperial uniforms, but I haven't come across a "M" shoulder strap in my neophyte experience. Hopefully, Chip or Chris Boonzaier will come by and comment - they are the experts. Any chance you can scan the entire photo? It's pretty hard to read the shoulder strap; other clues in the photo might help. From my knowledge the Musketen-Bataillon were part of infantry regiments; therefore, I would think they would have shoulder straps matching their regiment. Perhaps this is really an infantry regiment cypher and not a solitary "M". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 You sure its an "M" ? Everytime I look at it I see something different... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Chris, that's exactly my problem; at first I saw "28". Then I can see the "x" in the middle of the M. Then it's back to something else. That's why I think it's a cypher. Are there even such a thing as a "M" shoulder straps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Its like that drawing where you see the naked girl then old womans face, depending on how you focus. I saw 211 then XX then W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas W Posted September 3, 2010 Author Share Posted September 3, 2010 You sure its an "M" ? Everytime I look at it I see something different... Here's an enhanced view. Looks very "emmy" to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 But the thin line upper left to lower right just in front of the M makes it look like a W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 VIX may also be a runner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas W Posted September 3, 2010 Author Share Posted September 3, 2010 I didn't think of Roman numerals. That opens up all sorts of possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Y Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Just to add to the confusion I see an 88. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I'm seeing the R.I.R.111 (or Landwehr I.R.111). Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas W Posted September 4, 2010 Author Share Posted September 4, 2010 I'm seeing the R.I.R.111 (or Landwehr I.R.111). Chip And now so am I! Thanks, Chip. The "M" morphed into an "111" right before my very eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 (edited) I knew Chip could solve the mystery. I see the 111 too... But still think it could be a cypher that hasn't revealed itself yet. And Chip - I haven't seen an "M" shoulder strap in my meager resources. Can you answer the question: Is an "M" even realistically possible? Edited September 4, 2010 by IrishGunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 (edited) There are a few cyphers and abbreviations that have "M"s, but none like this. The 11.Marburger Jägers, the 1.Bav.I.R., the Landwehr Inspektion München and Metz, Minenwerfer (MW), etc., all had "M"s. It can't be a royal cypher, as you can see there is no crown where it would normally be. Chip Edited September 4, 2010 by Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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