Dieter3 Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Just recently visited the Japan Red Cross. There wasn't a lot to see, though they did have a small display that included the first Florence Nightingale medal and diploma to be awarded to a Japanese, and among those of the first group of this medal awarded in 1920. The recipient, Ms. Take Hagiwara, appears to be well-decorated judging by the photo on the description placard. I don't know enough about this medal but compared to another one on display and photos that I've seen, the ribbon is either an earlier style, or is of Japanese design. Anybody know??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter3 Posted October 29, 2010 Author Share Posted October 29, 2010 I'll let somebody else translate this if they really want to do so. No idea what some of the awards are, but appears like she at least has a Sacred Crown and a Japan Red Cross Order of Merit: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter3 Posted October 29, 2010 Author Share Posted October 29, 2010 (edited) Not in the greatest preservation conditions, in a glass case under a piece if plastic wrap, or so it appears, and fluorescent lightening, but here is the document with some edge wear and fade to the text: Edited October 29, 2010 by Dieter3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dieter3 Posted October 29, 2010 Author Share Posted October 29, 2010 Here is the other medal on display: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Nice items, thanks for taking the time to share them. My wife is a Romanian Nurse and in 2008 I took her to visit the small Florence Nightingale Museum in London, which she found very interesting. Kevin in Deva. :beer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter3 Posted October 29, 2010 Author Share Posted October 29, 2010 My pleasure!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 These are very rare. Sofar, I've seen 3 in 6 years or so of collecting: - one in the war museum in Canberra Australia - one at a dealer in Germany (awarded to a Yugoslav woman), 4-5k euro - one was offered to me years ago, awarded to a mongolian, but i had no clue what the medal was for and ignored the offer (regret that for sure!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I wonder how many hours did you spend back there? Did they called police just to get you out? Nice photos by the way. 1920 type!!! I believe it's Japanese style of course (they used ribbon from rising sun order) and what an unbelievable condition for the first type!!! P.S. - one was offered to me years ago, awarded to a mongolian, but i had no clue what the medal was for and ignored the offer (regret that for sure!) Nice. Never heard about such mongolian group ... This one of course quasi rare... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 The ones I have seen were all mounted like the one in post #1 but on a ribbon like the one in post #5. There was one on eBay recently. Engraved on the back. Looked original. /Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 The ones I have seen were all mounted like the one in post #1 but on a ribbon like the one in post #5. There was one on eBay recently. Engraved on the back. Looked original. /Michael Hi Michael As I said the ribbon is from rising sun order. This is for sure. About mounting style I am not so sure... Cheers, Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 The ones I have seen were all mounted like the one in post #1 but on a ribbon like the one in post #5. There was one on eBay recently. Engraved on the back. Looked original. /Michael The one I saw at a dealer was also engraved on the reverse. The name was largely obscured unfortunately due to somebody trying to scratch it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter3 Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 The one I saw at a dealer was also engraved on the reverse. The name was largely obscured unfortunately due to somebody trying to scratch it away. That really is unfortunate! That calls for a serious flogging in my book! Wish I could have gotten a look at the reverse of that one I saw at the RC visitor's center. Maybe next time can convince them to take it out with my powers of persuasion and overwhelming charm.... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 That really is unfortunate! That calls for a serious flogging in my book! Wish I could have gotten a look at the reverse of that one I saw at the RC visitor's center. Maybe next time can convince them to take it out with my powers of persuasion and overwhelming charm.... Yep! Just do "your thing" on them They will present you the whole collection just to get rid off you P.S. Gents, I think that all medals were engraved. At least all russian recipients medals that I saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 (edited) Just to assure you Gents: Article 4 (of Regulations for the Florence Nightingale Medal adopted by the Council of Delegates (Budapest 1991)) The Medal shall be in silver-gilt with a portrait on the obverse of Florence Nightingale with the words "Ad memoriam Florence Nightingale 1820-1910". On the reverse it shall bear the inscription on the circumference "Pro vera misericordia et cara humanitate perennis decor universalis". The name of the holder and the date of the award of the Medal shall be engraved in the centre. The Medal shall be attached by a red and white ribbon to a laurel crown surrounding a red cross. The Medal shall be accompanied by a diploma on parchment. P.S. Only 1376 awarded from 1920 to 2011. Edited November 14, 2011 by JapanX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Nice article about Florence in PROSPECTS journal http://www.ibe.unesco.org/fileadmin/user_upload/archive/publications/ThinkersPdf/nightingalee.PDF Knock yourself out! Cheers, Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 (edited) A little add on. Regarding the ribbon - it seems it has always been red and white with thin yellow stripe. Regarding the mounting style - earlier medals has figured-style bows (form like in post 1) and modern medals has horizontal-style bow (form like in post 5) Early ribbons was a little wider then modern ones. I think that change from figure-style bow to horizontal-style bow took place in the last 20 years. Early figured-style of the bow is here http://en.valka.cz/files/rad_florence_nightingale.jpg Later figured-style bow is here For modern horizontal style bow - this short article with interesting photos http://the100.ru/en/great-prizes/sisters-of-charity-florence-nightingale-medal.html Cheers, Nick Edited November 14, 2011 by JapanX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 And another one. Change in design of the bow most likely occurred in 1991 when the medal became medal "...for qualified male or female nurses and also for male or female voluntary nursing aides who are active members or regular helpers of a National Red Cross or Red Crescent Society or of an affiliated medical or nursing institution". That's why we observe two types of the bow. Early type was intended for lady's only, later style - it's a unisex style bow. Regards, Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) A little add on to our discussion of the Florence Nightingale Medal and its ribbon style. Recently I came across two very interesting sources. Here they are Anon. (Nov. 15, 1919) Florence Nightingale Medal. The British Medical Journal, Vol. 2, No. 3072, p. 645 Noyes, Clara (Sep., 1930) The Florence Nightingale Medal. The American Journal of Nursing, Vol. 30, No. 9, pp. 1094+1149-1150. Let’s study them. Edited February 28, 2012 by JapanX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 1919 article 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) 1930 article (p. 1049) Edited February 28, 2012 by JapanX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 1930 article (p. 1050) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 1930 article (p. 1094) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) Now we have another photo of the document for this rare medal + photo of the medal that was issued no later than in 1930 (at least!). On the photo we clearly see two additional thin stripes. But the color of these thin stripes looks like it is red! This is kinda strange... But then again this is black-and-white photo… Well, this thin one still looking like red to me My guess is that the medal we see on the page 1094 is the medal that was awarded to Miss Helen Scott Hay on May 12, 1920 (the document on p. 1094 dated 12 may 1920). I believe that both medals belong to the same very first vintage (in toto 42 medals were issued in 1920)! Edited February 28, 2012 by JapanX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) Another strange thing – this sentence in the first article. Edited February 28, 2012 by JapanX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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