Jeff Noll Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 Chip, Me too! I found the reference in Peter Meinlschmidt's book on Identity Tags/Disks. It is on page 43, "In a circular (dated 11 Sept 1917) issued by the Prussian War Ministry to all Clothing Depots it was pointed out that booty stocks, available at Bremen, of black-colored hat lace (made of "Tagal") should also be used as cords for identity disks. However, its tensile strength was to be tested and only lots with a minimum tensile strength of 10 kilograms would qualify." Beyond that I have no info. I recently got two MG dog tags with this cord on them (pictured above). I also have one tag in my case with this style cord. I, like you, are used to seeing the braided color cord or the light colored cord with the external lacing on dog tags.
Mikko13 Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 Hi guys,interesting topic. Here is my only dogtag...but I think it is a nice and rare one...unfortunately it is broken in the middle.Finnish Jäger Bataillon 27, located in Lockstedt.RegardsMikko
Chip Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 black-colored hat lace (made of "Tagal") Jeff,Wiki says that Tagal is another name for Manila hemp, which was used to make straw hats (and evidently cord too).Chip
Chip Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 Mikko,If you only have to have one, that would be a great one (especially for a Finnish collector). Chip
Minen Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) Hi,Another.Richard DietschWindischenbernsdorf22. 10. 77.II. Ers. Abt. Fd. Artl. R. 31. = 2 Ersatz Abteilung Feld Artillerie Regiment 314 Ers. Batt. N° 288 = 4 Ersatz BatterieFd. Batt. N. 875 = Feld Batterie N° 875 Hermann BeckerZögerdorf. Königsberg.7.5.91.2. E. 45. 3. K. 1654. = 2 Ersatz Bataillon Jnfanterie Regiment 45, 3te KompanieF.R. 6/33 984 = Füsilier Regiment 33, 6 Kompanie Josef ScheibRechtenbach22.12.93.1. Ers. Masch. K. 2. bay. A.K. N. 2101 = 1ste Ersatz Maschinen Gewehr Kompanie 2te bayer Armee KorpsL.M.G. TR. 92. N. 29 = Leichte Maschinen Gewehr Trupp 92 Edited August 15, 2015 by Minen
Minen Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 Wilhelm JmhoffMünder A/Deister Kr. Springe13. 5. 1883Reserve Jnfanterie Regiment 59, 7 Kompanie Maschinen Gewehr Zug 2Reserve Jnfanterie Regiment 257
Minen Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) Type 1869 : M. Fs. A. R. 4 = Magdeburgisches Fuss Artillerie Regiment 43. Companie Edited August 15, 2015 by Minen
Chip Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 Minen,A nice new assortment. Especially interesting is the rectangular "M.G.Z." example. The variety of these tags is continually surprising to me.Chip
Minen Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) Minen,The variety of these tags is continually surprising to me.ChipHi Chip,What about this one ?It looks like a 1915 but... no (9 x 7 cm)Josef LoichingerNeumartt Öberpfalz27. 4. 89.Fd. Batt. 875. = Feld Batterie 875 Edited August 15, 2015 by Minen
Minen Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 Another one, with manuscript marking :MAGDZINSKIJnfanterie Regiment 128And after : 6 (kompanie) / J.R. 61Stephan
Chris Boonzaier Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 Another one, with manuscript marking :MAGDZINSKIJnfanterie Regiment 128And after : 6 (kompanie) / J.R. 61StephanThats a wierd one!
Chip Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 Eric,If you are only going to keep one set, I think you made a good choice. Very nice.Chip
Hoss Posted August 18, 2015 Posted August 18, 2015 Thanks Chip does it mean he had something to do with Zeppelins at one point? I don't really know how to read them properly, and once I was told half the tag would be put in a dead soldiers mouth is there any validity in that statement?Eric
speedytop Posted August 18, 2015 Posted August 18, 2015 Hi Eric,"... does it mean he had something to do with Zeppelins at one point?"No, it is the street in the address: Breslau Zeppelinstr. 1Uwe
Hoss Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 LOL! thank you, I really didn't know. What about the corpse thing with half the tag?Eric
Chip Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Eric,I'm just speculating here, but if you have one and a half of a man's tags, I would assume he survived the war. I say that because if one half of the M16 tag stayed with the body and one half was collected by the unit, then there shouldn't be any left. I normally assume that half tags in good, non-dug condition were just broken in half and separated. This old zinc gets really brittle and the perforations are a weak area.Chip
Tony Posted December 7, 2015 Posted December 7, 2015 I meant to show this a while ago but forgot, Chris' wanted ad reminded me. I'm assuming the B is for Bavaria? Is there any way of researching a GR Jaeger? The only way I know of checking what may have happened to him are the Verlustlisten and POW records, but the spelling mistakes in the POW records can make searching there a nightmare no matter which nationality. Tony
The Prussian Posted December 7, 2015 Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Tony said: I meant to show this a while ago but forgot, Chris' wanted ad reminded me. I'm assuming the B is for Bavaria? Is there any way of researching a GR Jaeger? The only way I know of checking what may have happened to him are the Verlustlisten and POW records, but the spelling mistakes in the POW records can make searching there a nightmare no matter which nationality. Tony Hi Tony! It's Garde- Reserve Jäger-Bataillon, 2nd Company. Note the laces. Not bavarian Edited December 7, 2015 by The Prussian
Tony Posted December 7, 2015 Posted December 7, 2015 Ahhhh thanks Andy. I imagine being Prussian means research is at a dead end.
Chris Boonzaier Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 A new favourite for the list.... Achtung, please note: this tag is a fake.
Tony Posted February 14, 2016 Posted February 14, 2016 This is only an average ID disc but a bit special for me, it was found in the back of a draw a couple of days ago and belonged to one of the two brothers in 3 Coy., Jaeger Bn. 7 who were killed on the same day http://gmic.co.uk/topic/66423-a-jaegers-last-cigarettes/ I’ll guess at it belonging to Hans as his brother was wounded and missing whereas Hans’ belongings were forwarded to his next of kin.
Chris Boonzaier Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 Here is an early war one.... the officer was a reserve officer in the bavarian Infanterie Leib Regiment. In pen it says ILR 10th Company on the leather pouch. He was with the 1st Bavarian landwehr Regt upon mobilisation and killed in january 1915.
Chris Boonzaier Posted May 6, 2016 Posted May 6, 2016 OK, here is a scare one, albeit it in crappy condition... Bavarian Schneeschuh ersatz abteiling....
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