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Chip,  Me too!  I found the reference in Peter Meinlschmidt's book on Identity Tags/Disks.  It is on page 43, "In a circular (dated 11 Sept 1917) issued by the Prussian War Ministry to all Clothing Depots it was pointed out that booty stocks, available at Bremen, of black-colored hat lace (made of "Tagal") should also be used as cords for identity disks.  However, its tensile strength was to be tested and only lots with a minimum tensile strength of 10 kilograms would qualify."  Beyond that I have no info.  I recently got two MG dog tags with this cord on them (pictured above).  I also have one tag in my case with this style cord.  I, like you, are used to seeing the braided color cord or the light colored cord with the external lacing on dog tags. 

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Hi guys,

interesting topic. Here is my only dogtag...but I think it is a nice and rare one...unfortunately it is broken in the middle.

Finnish Jäger Bataillon 27, located in Lockstedt.

Regards

Mikko

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Seller kindly states reproduction.

Eric

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black-colored hat lace (made of "Tagal")

​ Jeff,

Wiki says that Tagal is another name for Manila hemp, which was used to make straw hats (and evidently cord too).

Chip

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Mikko,

If you only have to have one, that would be a great one (especially for a Finnish collector).  ;)

Chip

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Hi,

Another.

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Richard Dietsch
Windischenbernsdorf
22. 10. 77.
II. Ers. Abt. Fd. Artl. R. 31. = 2 Ersatz Abteilung Feld Artillerie Regiment 31
4 Ers. Batt. N° 288 = 4 Ersatz Batterie

Fd. Batt. N. 875 = Feld Batterie N° 875

 

 

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Hermann Becker
Zögerdorf. Königsberg.
7.5.91.
2. E. 45. 3. K. 1654. = 2 Ersatz Bataillon Jnfanterie Regiment 45, 3te Kompanie
F.R. 6/33  984 = Füsilier Regiment 33, 6 Kompanie

 

 

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Josef Scheib
Rechtenbach
22.12.93.
1. Ers. Masch. K. 2. bay. A.K. N. 2101 = 1ste Ersatz Maschinen Gewehr Kompanie 2te bayer Armee Korps

L.M.G. TR. 92. N. 29 = Leichte Maschinen Gewehr Trupp 92

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Wilhelm Jmhoff
Münder A/Deister Kr. Springe
13. 5. 1883

Reserve Jnfanterie Regiment 59, 7 Kompanie

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Maschinen Gewehr Zug 2
Reserve Jnfanterie Regiment 257

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Type 1869 :

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M. Fs. A. R. 4 = Magdeburgisches Fuss Artillerie Regiment 4
3. Companie

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Minen,

A nice new assortment. Especially interesting is the rectangular "M.G.Z." example. The variety of these tags is continually surprising to me.

Chip

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Minen,

The variety of these tags is continually surprising to me.

Chip

Hi Chip,

What about this one ?

It looks like a 1915 but...  no (9 x 7 cm)


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Josef Loichinger
Neumartt Öberpfalz
27. 4. 89.

Fd. Batt. 875. = Feld Batterie 875

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Another one, with manuscript marking :

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MAGDZINSKI
Jnfanterie Regiment 128

And after : 6 (kompanie) / J.R. 61

Stephan

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Another one, with manuscript marking :

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MAGDZINSKI
Jnfanterie Regiment 128

And after : 6 (kompanie) / J.R. 61

Stephan

Thats a wierd one!

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Eric,

If you are only going to keep one set, I think you made a good choice. Very nice.

Chip

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Thanks Chip does it mean he had something to do with Zeppelins at one point? I don't really know how to read them properly, and once I was told half the tag would be put in a dead soldiers mouth is there any validity in that statement?

Eric

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Hi Eric,

"... does it mean he had something to do with Zeppelins at one point?"

No, it is the street in the address: Breslau Zeppelinstr. 1

Uwe

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LOL! thank you, I really didn't know. What about the corpse thing with half the tag?

Eric

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Eric,

I'm just speculating here, but if you have one and a half of a man's tags, I would assume he survived the war. I say that because if one half of the M16 tag stayed with the body and one half was collected by the unit, then there shouldn't be any left. I normally assume that half tags in good, non-dug condition were just broken in half and separated. This old zinc gets really brittle and the perforations are a weak area.

Chip

 

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I meant to show this a while ago but forgot, Chris' wanted ad reminded me. I'm assuming the B is for Bavaria?

Is there any way of researching a GR Jaeger? The only way I know of checking what may have happened to him are the Verlustlisten and POW records, but the spelling mistakes in the POW records can make searching there a nightmare no matter which nationality.
 
Tony

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7 minutes ago, Tony said:

I meant to show this a while ago but forgot, Chris' wanted ad reminded me. I'm assuming the B is for Bavaria?

Is there any way of researching a GR Jaeger? The only way I know of checking what may have happened to him are the Verlustlisten and POW records, but the spelling mistakes in the POW records can make searching there a nightmare no matter which nationality.
 
Tony

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Hi Tony!

It's Garde- Reserve Jäger-Bataillon, 2nd Company.  Note the laces. Not bavarian

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Ahhhh thanks Andy.

I imagine being Prussian means research is at a dead end.

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This is only an average ID disc but a bit special for me, it was found in the back of a draw a couple of days ago and belonged to one of the two brothers in 3 Coy., Jaeger Bn. 7 who were killed on the same day http://gmic.co.uk/topic/66423-a-jaegers-last-cigarettes/
 
I’ll guess at it belonging to Hans as his brother was wounded and missing whereas Hans’ belongings were forwarded to his next of kin.

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Here is an early war one.... the officer was a reserve officer in the bavarian Infanterie Leib Regiment. In pen it says ILR 10th Company on the leather pouch. He was with the 1st Bavarian landwehr Regt upon mobilisation and killed in january 1915.ScanImage003.jpg

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OK, here is a scare one, albeit it in crappy condition... Bavarian Schneeschuh ersatz abteiling....schnee.JPG

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