Chris Boonzaier Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Hi, this has no date on it but initials and a regt number scratched on it...Any idea if it is WW1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted January 8, 2006 Author Share Posted January 8, 2006 I think it is, but am not sure.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Chris,If it is not WWI, it could certainly pass for it. Aluminum mess kits were discontinued pretty early on in the war. All aluminum kits that were at the front were supposedly recalled and replaced. The need for aluminum caused tinned, painted and even raw oiled steel to be substituted by 1915. Later on, as the need for aluminum abated, I believe it was used again, as it really was the best material for this use.Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted January 8, 2006 Author Share Posted January 8, 2006 Good, I was worried that all WW1 ones needed a stamp.I guess my EUR3 was not wasted after all :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Murphy Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Actually, The aluminum ones were never made again during the war. The material was too much in demand for the construction of Zeppelins and other aircraft, and would not have been wasted to make dinnerware for the infantry. The final model was the feldgrau enameled steel mess tin dating from 1916. During 1918 some were also enameled black. Judging from the number of surviving aluminum mess kits, I do not believe they were recalled for smelting. Of course many thousands became victims of shot and shrapnel and many of them would have been salvaged. Of course during the Reichswehr period the aluminum ones were manufactured again. Someone told me once that he believed that all of the brass buttons were supposed to be recalled and replaced with steel ones and the brass used for armaments. I believe it is a misinterpretattion of the regulations. Every early issue unifrom I have seen that originally would have had brass or tombak buttons, still has them. Dan Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Dan,There were a Prussian and Bavarian decrees (in September 1915) ordering all mess kits made from aluminum to be withdrawn from the front to be used for other needs of the army. It is hard to believe that this was universally adhered to, but it was mandated.Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JensF. Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 It is WW1. Which regiment is scratched into it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted May 5, 2006 Author Share Posted May 5, 2006 Was just given this as a gift....Silesia 17 on the lid, Silisea16 in the bottom.... me be a happy boyo... "thank you" is always the best price ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Chris,It looks like a very nice example. Very little enamel damage. Excellent price too!Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JensF. Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 Lucky man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted March 1, 2007 Author Share Posted March 1, 2007 About a week ago someone told me that these black aluminium ones could be early war... or post war for SA or NSKK or Reichswehr etc. etc. etc.Anyone know if they were made after the war again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JensF. Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Yep, they made them too, but usually with a dark green paint. The pre war ones were usually black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted April 22, 2008 Author Share Posted April 22, 2008 Does anyone have a clear pic of the strap I need for it?ThanksChrus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Chris,Are you talking about the Kochgeschirrriemen for the Tornister?Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted April 24, 2008 Author Share Posted April 24, 2008 Jup, indeed.Someone told me they were the same as the blanket straps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Chris,Whoever told you that was wrong. The three Mantelriemen had a "double strap", one to go around the Mantel/Decke/Zeltbahn roll and the other to attach the roll to the Tornister. The Kochgeschirrriemen were simple straps with a roller buckle. Two were needed to attach the Kochgeschirr to the Tornister.Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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