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Oval silver merit medal, Hzg Carl Eduard, Cobourg Gotha

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Hi gentlemen !

I need your help, I already possess this very nice medal :

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Seems to be in silver, 52mm x 32,4mm / 27g.

Very hight level of details...

I recently purchase a second one :

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50,1mm x 31,4mm / 19,3g

The engraving is blured, especially when you compare the two medals... Seems to be silvered metal, very lighter, in fact.

So what do you think about these two medals ? The second can be a 30's model ? Or a fake ?

Thank you for your help !

:cheers:

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Are those casting bubbles on the crown between the lions?

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Hi !

Close up of the area between lions.

First medal :

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Second medal :

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:cheers:

(The zoom is pityless for the 2nd medal : she looks better than on this picture...)

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I had one of these once and will posts pictures when I get home. I'm curious too. I would think it should be silver, I don't think mine was and mine didn't have a cut out crown. If I was a betting man, I'd think the one I had wasn't an issue piece, put a copy of some sort.

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This is the one I had in my Richthofen bar. I have a better one at home of the single medal obverse and reverse.

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Here's the one I had that I used on the medal bar. I always wondered about the line on the reverse at the top.

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Hi JB,

To be honest with you, I have a doubt about the second CM2 you show there, not sure it is a wartime medal in silver. Mine is exactly like your first one you show on post #1.

Christophe

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Hi !

For the second, I have no doubt : the medal is certainly not in silver. The first looks better, but is it a wartime medal, I don't know...

Thank you in your interrest !

:cheers:

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This is what I would expect from a 1930ies piece. http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/32292-carl-eduard-medaille-in-1935/page__p__304312__hl__eduard__fromsearch__1#entry304312

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Hi !

I have seen a jeweller today, and I have show the two medals :

- the first is in solid silver, between 950 and 990/1000...

- the second, as I tought, is made from silvered metal.

;)

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This is the one I had in my Richthofen bar. I have a better one at home of the single medal obverse and reverse.

Do you really possess this bar :banger: :banger: :banger: What a beauty !

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But, is it the good clasp on the oval Carl Eduard medal ?

I thought there was only the year of awarding, and a band with the date ?

This on the bar looks like a clasp for SEHO medal...

:cheers:

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I built a replica of von Richthofens medal bar using original medals. I couldn't find the correct clasp for the SCG medal so I used that one. I later disassembled it and returned the medals to their original ribbons and sold them off for a new project I had in the works. Ultimately, finding the medals was the fun part not having the medal bar.

I couldn't repete the effort now because of cost.

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Hi Daniel,

For my information, did you find a Bavarian military merit order 3rd class with swords or did you find a fourth class ?

Christophe

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Hi Daniel,

For my information, did you find a Bavarian military merit order 3rd class with swords or did you find a fourth class ?

Christophe

No I used the 4th class.

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Would value any opinions on this Saxe Coburg-Gotha Oval Duke Carl Eduard medal:

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16 hours ago, graham said:

Would value any opinions on this Saxe Coburg-Gotha Oval Duke Carl Eduard medal:

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I especially like your medal, very beautiful, I hope that one day I can have one.

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1812 Overture,

Thanks for your comments. 

I have a few unanswered questions in regards to this medal and clasp. Firstly, I am not sure whether this medal is pre 1935 or not. Is does not have a silver hallmark on the rim, or the maker L.Chr. Lauer at the lower left of the Reverse of the medal. I believe that Paul Meybauer made some but I do not know whether he produced the silver version and I am unsure whether this is a Meybauer produced medal anyway. Any answers to these questions are most welcome.

Regards,

Graham

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Since I joined the forum, I have spent nearly a month to open the pictures in all the articles of the German Empire. I have saved them for reference. Me, "picture thief":ninja:

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