Peter1975 Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Got some wonderings about the flaws on the Rk des Kvk. The flaw on the svastika, is this expected on every cross w/o swords and what about the crosses w/ swords? With different dies there should be genuine crosses without this flaw! (picture below taken from another post on GMIC.) The other flaws, "3" and on the outher arm, 6 o´clock. There are two dies...one without the flaws and the other (later) with flaws? These flaws would be expected on both crosses!? /peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 The relative rarity of the KVK without Swords makes it difficult to be 100% sure but certainly on the original examples I have examined since noticing the small flaw on the Swastika, it has been present. With such a small number being made/awarded, I doubt if more than one set of tooling was made by each firm. As for the flaws on the KVK with Swords, I believe these to be due to damage to the tooling so that the first striking would not have had the flaws. I have seen examples of the "with Swords" crosses which have all the characteristics of the Deschler tooling, but no flaws so I believe that the die strikings were initially clean and the flaws appeared later due to damage to the tooling - rather than there being multiple die sets, - flawed and unflawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter1975 Posted July 8, 2011 Author Share Posted July 8, 2011 (edited) Gordon...thanks! Have you seen a cross w/o swords with the flaws showing on some of the crosses w/ swords? ...with stripped eyeholder... And...was there any Rkkvk found in the so called "Deschler horde"? If so...with or without flaws?! /Peter Edited July 9, 2011 by Peter1975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Hi Peter I haven't seen a Cross without Swords with the same flaws as the "with Swords" but they came from different tooling so that is to be expected. I don't think any RK were found in the Deschler hoard, or at least I haven't heard of it. Gordon...thanks! Have you seen a cross w/o swords with the flaws showing on some of the crosses w/ swords? ...with stripped eyeholder... And...was there any Rkkvk found in the so called "Deschler horde"? If so...with or without flaws?! /Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter1975 Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 Hi Peter I haven't seen a Cross without Swords with the same flaws as the "with Swords" but they came from different tooling so that is to be expected. I don't think any RK were found in the Deschler hoard, or at least I haven't heard of it. Thanks Gordon! /peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all1knew Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Gordon, Just wanted to be clear. You're saying the 6 o'clock flaw found on the version with swords got progressively worse and may not appear on the earliest initial pieces from production? William Kramer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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