Please help to identify Bavarian (?) medal!

[Freiwillige]

Here's a portrait of a Bavarian policeman from the Weimar Republic era.

[Freiwillige]

Question No.1 - is it possible to identify his rank according to the shoulder board?

[Freiwillige]

Question No.2 regarding one medal that I'm still unable to identify.

Awards:

1. EK-I

2. Schlesisches Bewährungsabzeichen 1.Klasse ohne Schwertern

Medal bar:

1. EK-II

2. Bayern. Militär-Verdienstkreuz 2.Klasse mit der Krone und Schwertern

3. ???

4. Preussen. Verdienstkreuz für Kriegshilfsdienst

5. Schlesisches Bewährungsabzeichen 1.Klasse ohne Schwertern

Thanks in advance!

[Sergio]

Question No.2 regarding one medal that I'm still unable to identify.

Awards:

1. EK-I

2. Schlesisches Bewährungsabzeichen 1.Klasse ohne Schwertern

Medal bar:

1. EK-II

2. Bayern. Militär-Verdienstkreuz 2.Klasse mit der Krone und Schwertern

3. ???

4. Preussen. Verdienstkreuz für Kriegshilfsdienst

5. Schlesisches Bewährungsabzeichen 1.Klasse ohne Schwertern

Thanks in advance!

Hello Andrey!

Cool photo!

#3 - Looks like Saxon Silver Friedrich-August Medal.

Edited November 2, 2011 by Sergio

[Freiwillige]

Thanks for reply, Sergio!

Ribbon seems a bit different from the Friedrich-August Medal :unsure:

[Sergio]

Thanks for reply, Sergio!

Ribbon seems a bit different from the Friedrich-August Medal

Андрей, думается, что это она - желтая лента со светло голубыми полосками. То, что выглядит она не привычно - эффект черно-белой фотографии :beer:

[Kev in Deva]

Nice picture.

Am I right in thinking there was no actual I & II Class Schlesisches Bewährungsabzeichen?

Kevin in Deva. :unsure:

[Freiwillige]

Am I right in thinking there was no actual I & II Class Schlesisches Bewährungsabzeichen? Kevin in Deva.

Kevin, you are wrong. Moreover there were 8 variants of that badge - various additions to the two basic grades, 1st and 2nd class, namely

II. Stufe

II. Stufe mit Eichenlaub

II. Stufe mit Schwertern

II. Stufe mit Eichenlaub und Schwertern

I. Stufe

I. Stufe mit Eichenlaub

I. Stufe mit Schwertern

I. Stufe mit Eichenlaub und Schwertern.

The difference between 1st and 2nd classes of the Schlesischer Adler can be clearly seen on the photo I posted here:)

[Ulsterman]

yes- but weren't the extras classes restricted to only two by the consolidation regs of 1934? Still, i have pics of SAs in wear with the swords and oaks well into the 1940s. I don't think ferreting out the cancelled classes was a priority.

[Freiwillige]

Sergio, thanks for your post!

Any more ideas regarding that medal? Does everyone agree with Sergio?

[speedytop]

Hi,

in my opinion statements about the medal are a belief, but not knowledge, no comment from me.

But:

"Schlesisches Bewährungsabzeichen, various additions to the two basic grades"

Freiwillige, there are only two classes, I.Stufe and II. Stufe.

See for example HuS from 1940, No. 406j 406k on page 118:

"Verboten ist die Hinzufügung von Schwertern, Eichenlaub und dergl." > Eichenlaub und Schwerter are not allowed.

".. aus mattgeschwärztem Eisen (also nicht emailliert) ...)" > iron, not enamelled.

Or see Dombrowski from 1940 on page 32/33:

"... abweichende Formen und Arten des Schlesischen Bewährungsabzeichens - z.B. die Hinzufügung von Eichenlaub und Schwertern - dürfen ncht getragen, hergestellt, angeboten, feilgehalten, verkauft oder sonst in den Verkehr gebracht werden." > Eichenlaub und Schwerter and enamelled crosses are not allowed, under threat of penalty.

Kevin, only one class is correct for the Baltenkreuz.

Uwe

[Freiwillige]

Thanks for clarification, Uwe!

Anyway I never doubted there were only 2 classes of the S.Adler - I just wrote that "8 variants of that badge" existed being based on "two basic grades, 1st and 2nd class". :beer:

[Ulsterman]

any chance its the red cross medal? Odd though- I would have expected the Bavarian LS medal- esp. with the BMMC2x.

[Freiwillige]

Thanks for your reply! Frankly speaking, I don't know whether it could be Red cross medal... It should be strange if he had one like that.