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Fakes: quality (slowly and not expertly) is on the raise

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How about this? I don't do Chinese, but wondering if this is legit or not for this heafty price:

http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k131461966

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How about this?

Yummy!!!

What a nice fantasy piece...

A perfect blending of Chinese and Japanese motives!

Classical pin!

Beautiful patina!

And only 19+ grands!

I don't do Chinese ...

With these galloping prices pretty soon nobody will :(

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With these galloping prices pretty soon nobody will :(

Only those who have enough money... :o

Everything is going up in price, and our pay checks... that's another story.

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Everything is going up in price...

No, no, no ...

"Golden period" Stradivarius will give you no more than 2,17% annually (most likely about 1,4%).

This could be called "going up in price"

What we have in case of Chinese phaleristics is "galloping prices"!!! ;)

History repeats itself...

Same story - different country...

If 00s were (in phaleristic world) the years of "Soviet and Imperial Russia Price Bubble",

then 10s will be years of "Chinese Price Bubble"...

Only those who have enough money... :o

Who are they?!

Extraterrestrial creatures?

Everything human is alien to them :lol:

Regards,

Nick

Edited by JapanX

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I am afraid that pretty soon beautiful Dieter specimen could sink into oblivion …

It cannot be allowed!!!

Obverse/Reverse

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Interesting that this handicraft artel is constantly using same base components.

Lazy buggers!

Only pins and colors of enamel vary.

An of course superimposed parts ;)

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And another portion of delicatessen ;)

Looks like these boys are busy 24/7!

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And now something completely new: striped tiger + merit medal.

Inventive persons they are...

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You better stop wasting your time chaps and begin collecting these beauties by variations!!!

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And another numbered fake - this time the victim is Order of Brilliant Star.

Obverse

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Our fakers were so exited that stamp everything on reverse in "head over heels" style...

Marks, pin and even the number (quasi low number!)

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Actually the quality indeed is on the raise.

Let`s compare fake with the real deal (piece on the right).

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The real problem of this guys is phantasy elements they put into original designs

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they are using same base elements for different orders.

And of course they really shoud stop creating these monsters...

Edited by JapanX

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A thread of SHAME would be good, but we have to first include the systems you say 'backup' reputable sellers: ebay and paypal. Don't mean to go on a rant, but those companies (actually one company) are shameful, to say the least. They refund buyers even with EMS tracking info, they put 21-day holds on balances on a whim, they charge outlandish fees, and they punish sellers when buyers make a claim--even when the seller gives a full refund. (I lost my 20% discount because ebay allowed a buyer from Israel to bid despite me blocking bidders from that country. He left me a negative feedback; I lost 20% discount forever because ebay will not give it back.)

Another shameful episode that happened to me recently: A dishonest buyer in Singapore (Dieter, you've already mentioned this guy on another thread) claimed he didn't receive an EMS package (the arrival is confirmed online) yet ebay/paypal awarded him the money--a mere 80,000 yen (900 USD). Sigh, the stories go on and on. So whatever 'backup' you think feebay and preypal are doing, think again.

Sorry for this unprofessional outburst. I've had a tough few months dealing with those companies.

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And another one.

Same old story: base components are the same - different colouring.

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