JBFloyd Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Here's an unusual combination of awards: Liberian Order of African Redemption, officer Liberian Medal of Merit, silver (it should be on a ribbon of red and blue horiziontal stripes) Spain Medal of Distinction of Alfonso XIII, 1902 Spain Medal of the Red Cross, second class Reverse to follow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFloyd Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 And the reverse, with the J. Godet & Sohn maker's tag. While speculation is easy, it seems most likely that the recipient was a German citizen who served in consular post for both Liberia and Spain, with little or no military service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Holy cow. This must be the oddest "German" medal bar I've ever seen. :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signalcorps45 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Amazing bar!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Hunter Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Very interesting medal bar. Thanks for posting. Best wishes Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Wow, that is a most incredible combination of awards. Just don't show this one to Claudio... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 So.....is he in the DOA 1908/09? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Could also be a liberian who worked in Spain and had them mounted in Germany when he worked in Germany! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 @Herr General: you know him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I was thinking about this one last night, but Herr General beat me to the posting. The complete lack of ANY German awards is interesting. Possible yes, but it is almost embarrassing that he didn't get any non-combatant award recognition from the Fatherland. Even Spain gave him two awards, one of them Red Cross related. How could a German have foreign states giving him awards but nothing from your own country? -it's unnatural. The Liberian awards are ahead of the Spanish. I believe it is possible that he earned these awards as a citizen of Liberia, with Spanish authorities about for recognition performing some kind of humanitarian deeds. He later found himself in Berlin when he wanted to mount them. And he went to the best place to do that.... (even if they didn't have enough of the correct ribbon for Liberian Medal of Merit.) @Vince -you are right about that. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webr55 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Another possibility is he had a German NECK order... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Could it be a Spaniard who simply had his medals assembled in Germany? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Maybe it was a Liberian diplomat. A quick google search shows that Liberia maintained an emabssy there and had a legation in the early 1900s-Weimar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Could it be a Spaniard who simply had his medals assembled in Germany? The Liberian medals are in front of the Spanish medals, because of this it is unlikely that he is a Spaniard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Maybe it was a Liberian diplomat. A quick google search shows that Liberia maintained an emabssy there and had a legation in the early 1900s-Weimar. Interesting information, and I think that might well be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 To know the end of the story, check my site: http://woeschler-orden.de/deutsches-reich-4er-ordensschnalle-des-konsuls-goedelt-mit-liberia-und-spanien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Saschaw, Nice work. Did you find him in the DOA or elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 The identification work was made by a previous owner, who found him in Baden's "Hof- und Staatshandbuch", 1910 issue. He's still there in 1913. No DOA entry for him. His Redemption order is given as a higher grde, but such mistakes happen, and he's listed as a wearer of Liberia's Lone Star Medal, an older Liberian award that probably got obsolete when the redemption order was introduced. This medal, unfortunately, is missing and replaced by a later, much more common medal. I firstly didn't notice, but the ribbons and the entry match for it... a shame it's missing, but still an interesting and highly unusual group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Hi Sascha your story is so incredible, I would like to post an advertisement for this bar on my blog. How would I do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 No idea how you can do it, but feel free to use any text or image you need. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Hi this is what it look like. I just used your text and first picture and posted a link to your page http://davidmueldner.wordpress.com/2012/07/12/phaleristics-1-5/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Sascha, Interesting that he was found in the State and Court Handbook. There are any other sources to use for tracing out medalbar besides the ranklists and DOA. I try to get my hands on the State and Court handbooks whenever possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 :beer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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