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“Vein” approach to dating Rising Sun Orders: a DaNgErOuS pAtH

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How about this one? Obviously Meiji, not as early as Hirata of course. But I'm thinking pre-1900. The case is thinner in the vertical dimension than other Meiji-era cases I've examined. Case is a little beat up, no rosette, but I like the katakana "NA" hallmark. ;) The inscription seems rather prominent, doesn't it?

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This one has a thicker case, obvioulsy different inscription style (Type 2?) - what do you think Nick, post-1900/pre-1910? No maker's marks.

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But I'm thinking pre-1900.

Possibly...

I think inside 1895-1915 period.

Nice mark!

Don't have this one (in this class) in my collection :whistle:

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...obviously different inscription style (Type 2?)

More like inscription style # 39 :lol:

what do you think Nick, post-1900/pre-1910?

Yep, very likely ;)

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'NA'= Namikawa Sousuke?

Hmmm...

I wonder Rich...

You see, the strangest thing is that I have in my collection pieces that are identical (sacred treasures as far as I remember) in every respect except marks - one bears M and the other "private workshop" mark. Ain't it strange?! Will try to find this interesting pair and post it.

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'NA'= Namikawa Sousuke?

Great info, thanks! So I know this maker was known for enamel art works/items, medals as well?

Possibly...

I think inside 1895-1915 period.

Nice mark!

Don't have this one (in this class) in my collection :whistle:

There was another one recently on eBay with this mark, but the medal was not as nice and the mark was somewhat lost among the other scuffs, but could still make it out. The case as diffferent, in fact another kanji variant - possibly the 3,764th now known variant to exist.... ;)

More like inscription style # 39 :lol:

Yep, very likely ;)

Smilar to case variants..... ;) :lol:

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Hmmm...

I wonder Rich...

You see, the strangest thing is that I have in my collection pieces that are identical (sacred treasures as far as I remember) in every respect except marks - one bears M and the other "private workshop" mark. Ain't it strange?! Will try to find this interesting pair and post it.

Found and posted it http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/56238-7th-class-of-rising-sun-order-with-interesting-and-pretty-rare-mark/

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and back to this instability ...

This time it is not vein instability, but reverse inscription style.

Let`s look at this 8th class

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Well, with such veins one should expect this style of inscription on reverse

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