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Both look OK. Although there are very many unmarked GABs around so it can be difficult to suggest makers, the solid bnacked one does look a bit like the type attributed to Berg & Nolte and the one with the scooped out reverse to the bayonet/grenade looks like a Rudolf Karneth going by comparison with the photos in Frank Heukemes book on the GABs.

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Thanks for that Gordan picked up a copy of your kriegsmarine badge book a couple of months ago have two unmarked navy badges will post some pictures when I get time.

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