demir Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Hello, Here are the samples of JHWerner TWMs with the date 333 on them instead of 1333. Regards demir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demir Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 JH WERNER owned by murat (GMIC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demir Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 This was posted by Tim B (GMIC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demir Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 AnotherJ H Werner, I don't know where I copied from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demir Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 J H Werner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demir Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 JH WERNER I don't know where I found the picture. Date turned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryG Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Great photos and great Stars. I want them all! even without the '1'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.S. Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 So what is the significance of the missing 1 ? I have just purchased a Turkish 3rd pattern and this is missing the 1 , why would the Turks miss a 1 out ? . Cheers Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryG Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Poor workmanship? Worn dies? Illiterate worker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.S. Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Terry possibly but I doubt it . No there must be a reason why 1333 ( 1915 ) is 333 any Turkish historians here ? Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryG Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) There is no 'historical' reason why the one is missing. The year in the arabic calendar also has 4 digits and the 1 has been chopped off. The true reason behind this remains conjecture. This has been discussed and I do not see this as a reason to reject the piece. Can you show the back of the star please? Edited February 21, 2012 by TerryG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demir Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) So what is the significance of the missing 1 ? I have just purchased a Turkish 3rd pattern and this is missing the 1 , why would the Turks miss a 1 out ? . Cheers Rob Hi, These were not made by the Turks. These were all foreign made. Turkish made red lacquer painted original ones have the date 1333 on them. Please read the threads on this subject: http://www.wehrmacht...ad.php?t=567051 Regards Demir Edited February 21, 2012 by demir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.S. Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Phew what an argument here is a photo of the back . I thought the sewn piece of ribbon is typical of Turkish worn awards . Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.S. Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 And thanks for the links Demir . Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.S. Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 And my other one just to show . Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryG Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 This 'painted' Turkish one does not have the correct pin......Demir, do you agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.S. Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 http://militarianz.freeforums.org/id-the-original-from-the-fake-turkish-gallipoli-star-1333-t2229.html Not according to this bunch . Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryG Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Looks like one person on there is giving an opinion. I think the issue of the Turkish made star and its poor quality pin has been discussed elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demir Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 This 'painted' Turkish one does not have the correct pin......Demir, do you agree? Hi Terry, Which medal. As far as I know TWM, there is no Ottoman mint made Medal picture in this thread. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demir Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) http://militarianz.f...1333-t2229.html Not according to this bunch . Rob Hi Rob, I checked that thread. Only the first picture is the Ottoman make, the rest who knows. Information given there about the Ottoman Made Medal in the first paragraph is OK. Who produced 2nd and 3rd one needs clarification. The facts about the TWM is in my recently published book named "the Turkish War Medal". Regards Demir Regards Edited February 26, 2012 by demir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryG Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) Hi Terry, Which medal. As far as I know TWM, there is no Ottoman mint made Medal picture in this thread. Regards Merhaba Demir. Yes this is what I was trying to say. I look forward to reading your book when I get back to the UK! Here is the back of my Turkish Star. Edited February 22, 2012 by TerryG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.S. Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Hi Demir do you have a link to where your book can be purchased . Thankyou Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demir Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 Merhaba Demir. Yes this is what I was trying to say. I look forward to reading your book when I get back to the UK! Here is the back of my Turkish Star. Merhaba Terry, I will get the books tomorrow and will post next week. Regards Demir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demir Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 Hi Demir do you have a link to where your book can be purchased . Thankyou Rob Hello Rob, As I said to Terry, I will get the books tomorrow and can post them next week. Here is the info about the book in our GMIC "latest Classifieds" section. http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/classifieds/item/66-the-turkish-war-medal/ Regards Demir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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