Laurence Strong Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I have been on a bit of a sabattical for a few years for a variety of reasons. One thing I caught a glimpse of when I came back was Darrell Simpsons mentioning he viewed L15 items as being fake/repro. Would someone care to clarify what the situation is on these? Many thanks later Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest talltom Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 personally i veiw them as repros as well i work off the main list that No's 1,3,14,52,98, L/11, L/21,L/56 are originals tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest talltom Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 however a lot of people say that he did make kvks. ive seen ones with cases and without. would like to know everyone elses opinions on this :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 In general terms, any 'L' number without a hyphen is usually a fake. In other words, '21' is OK, 'L/21' is OK but 'L21' is doubtful. Just a generalisation, but a good yardstick with these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 Thanks all, now I have to find a correct replacement...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest talltom Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 try jamie cross (in the UK) http://www.thirdreichmedals.com/ or thomas huss (in germany) http://www.german-historica.de/ both usually have good examples tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietrich Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I have been on a bit of a sabattical for a few years for a variety of reasons. One thing I caught a glimpse of when I came back was Darrell Simpsons mentioning he viewed L15 items as being fake/repro. Would someone care to clarify what the situation is on these? Otto Schickle made KVKs in both classes and with and without swords. They are either unmarked or marked L/15. After mid 1941 Otto Schickle was no longer allowed to produce orders and medals of the period past 1933 by order of the PKZ. The LDO number "L/15" was never reissued. It has been established by research and personal interviews with the person concerned that L 15 marked orders and medals, especially those which use mixed hardware from Vienna manufacturers (Orth, Souval, ..), are post war productions, using left over parts. It has been argued that the use of L 15 (w/o the "/") was an early mix up by Orth with his PKZ number "15". This is not supported by the evidence, especially because there are post war fakes with 100% new parts also marked "L 15". I personally consider everything marked L 15 a post war production. Dietrich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 Thank you Dietrich :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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