piekenier Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Does anyone have photos of any of the following officers that served in German South West Africa and decorations they received. Feldwebel Sinnreich Polizeisergeant Otten Oberleutnant G. Bullrich Dr. Hannemann Oberleutnant Hans von Oelhafen Oblt. Horn Lt. Edgar Schultz Sanitatssergeant Schoch Also Hauptman George Gene' that served in Tsingtau Also Lt. Schniewindt that served in Kamerun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leutwein Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 very interesting! Why are you looking for them, if I can ask.... ...do you have some items of the post guys? Unfortunately I do not have any photo of those. Best wishes Karsten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piekenier Posted June 22, 2012 Author Share Posted June 22, 2012 Karsten, Yes I have items of the post guys .Really would like to get photo's and more info on them like decorations awarded .Whilst there is some info in the rank lists it is precious little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leutwein Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Very interesting. Hope you can wait..... because now I´m far away of my sources and will come back home in october. Best wishes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piekenier Posted June 23, 2012 Author Share Posted June 23, 2012 I have a bronze reiter presented by the officers corps to Lt Horn in 1912 when he left the Schutztruppe in GSWA .Picture attached. I really would like to find a photo of Lt Horn and other info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piekenier Posted June 23, 2012 Author Share Posted June 23, 2012 More pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piekenier Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 Oberleutnant Horn saw service in GSWA from 1909 t0 1912 in Kommando der Schutzruppe Windhuk .He was in the Reiter Abteilung 3 Kompagnie Reitende Batterie. (Mounted troops 3. Comp.Mounted battery).His rank date was 11.09.1907 which was when he was promoted to Oberleutnant (Full leut.)He was originally promoted to Lt. (Second Leut.) 27.1.1898 when he was stationed at in the West Prussian Pioneer Batalloin Nr.17 in Stettin. It appears he was transferred from this Batt. to the Landwehr Berlin District (Bezirk) IV Pioneer Div. in 1909 then to Landwehr District (Bezirk) II Cologne in the same year and must have volunteered for service in GSWA also in 1909 9 He appears in the Rank List for GSWA in 1909). The only decoration I know of is the Landwehrdienstkreuz 2nd Class awarded in 1909. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 That is fantastic indeed!!!!! My best DSWA item is the doc group to von Hadeln.... http://www.kaiserscross.com/40029/150601.html He actually took part in an "invasion" of the Union :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arb Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Your man is Ernst Horn (*13.9.1876 †00.10.1925). At the beginning of the war he was a company commander in Gren. R. 6. He departed the Sch.Tr. f. DSWA on 31.05.1912 and was attached for training to the "Landesaufnahme" (surveying section of the General staff) the next day, 01.06.1912. He was promoted captain and attached to the Reichs Kolonialamt on 01.10.1912. On 27.01.1914 he was transferred to GR 6 as a company commander. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piekenier Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 Andy , That is some great research .Where did you get the info. In my research I found him in the 1912 Rank List still attached to DSWA as a ObLt.Then I could not trace him any further . Following your information I have found a Hptm. Horn (promotion date 01.10.1912) attached Oberschlesisches Inf Regt 63 and it is noted that he is serving at Reichskolonialamt.Then as you said in the 1914 rank list he is in GR6 and it is noted in I.R. 63 that he was transferred tho GR6. I had no way of finding the thread from DSWA to GR6 .I would not have known his promotion date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piekenier Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 That is fantastic indeed!!!!! My best DSWA item is the doc group to von Hadeln.... http://www.kaiserscr...029/150601.html He actually took part in an "invasion" of the Union :-) Chris, That is some research you have there !You must have some diary or book on him and the events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arb Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Andy , That is some great research .Where did you get the info. In my research I found him in the 1912 Rank List still attached to DSWA as a ObLt.Then I could not trace him any further . Following your information I have found a Hptm. Horn (promotion date 01.10.1912) attached Oberschlesisches Inf Regt 63 and it is noted that he is serving at Reichskolonialamt.Then as you said in the 1914 rank list he is in GR6 and it is noted in I.R. 63 that he was transferred tho GR6. I had no way of finding the thread from DSWA to GR6 .I would not have known his promotion date. With the right sources, tracing a career is not that difficult. After more than 18 years of collecting information (and, more importantly, books), I have a good handle on the vast majority of first names for the Prussians as well as dates and places of birth. The Militär Wochenblatt are absolutely indespensible for finding exact dates of transfers. etc. Also, when one learns how to read a Rangliste, many things become much easier to follow. At the end of each regiment's listing in the Rangliste is a small paragraph in fine print which details the transfers, retirements, etc within that regiment since the publication of the last Rangliste. This helps immensely as one tries to follow an officer's movements within the army. It takes time, but in the end it's worth the effort. I can not over emphasize the absolute requirement of assembling as comprehensive a library as possible. It's cliché to say that knowledge is power. However, without significant resources or access to such resources, the type of research demonstrated here is simply not possible. With the help of the internet and great fora such as this, other can enjoy the benefits of the research a few of us conduct for the sheer joy of wrestling seemingly nameless, long dead Prussians from obscurity. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piekenier Posted June 26, 2012 Author Share Posted June 26, 2012 Andy, Do I presume you are in Germany? Thanks again.I have assembled quite a library also over many years as I have been an avid collector since I was very young in the 70,s.I have most of the Prussian rank lists from 1898 through to 1914/1918. The Militar Wochenblad I do not have . Do you have the Deutshes Kolonialblatt as that is an indespensible reference for the kolonies .I have had access to it through libraries when I visited Namibia. Are you able to assist me with the other officers I need info on. I have nothing at all so far on Sinnreich and Otten. I have a note to look on pages 634 to 637 for Otten on the Deutsches Kolonialblatt of 1906 but cannot get to one. This would be most appreciated . I would love to stay in touch with you and perhaps we could email? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arb Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) Unfortaunately, I no longer live in Germany, but in the US. I've sent you a PM with my email address. We can continue the conversation via e-mail if you care to. Andy Edited June 26, 2012 by arb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piekenier Posted June 26, 2012 Author Share Posted June 26, 2012 Thanks for the input Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piekenier Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share Posted June 27, 2012 After Andy's input I reran my research on Oblt Horn . Oberleutnant Horn saw service in GSWA from 1909 t0 1912 in Kommando der Schutzruppe Windhuk .He was in the Reiter Abteilung 3 Kompagnie Reitende Batterie. (Mounted troops 3. Comp.Mounted battery).His rank date was 11.09.1907 which was when he was promoted to Oberleutnant (Full leut.)He was originally promoted to Lt. (Second Leut.) 20.07.1897. His last regt of service before being transferred to GSWA was with Infantry Regt 63 . He departed from GSWa on 31.05.1912 as per Andy's research above . His last rank was Major a.D when retired out of Grenadier Regt 6 probably 1918 . He passe away on 9/10/1925 Have not found any decorations/awards .!Must have had the Colonial Service decoration however with bar 1909-1912 and some WW1 awards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Chris, That is some research you have there !You must have some diary or book on him and the events. Hi, Was just lucky to find the raid to SA in a couple of books. By the way.... one book that is current but hard to find is the Walter Nuhn book on WW1 in GSWA "Auf verlorenen Posten".... if you dont have it.. it is a must have!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piekenier Posted June 28, 2012 Author Share Posted June 28, 2012 Thanks I will look for the book on Amazon. I have the original book" Der Feldzug in Suedwest 1914/1915 " by Dr. Hans von Oelhafen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Nuhn has written a number of books, Herero war, etc but the WW1 one was almost not published. in the end he self published it in 2008, it is A4 size and really, really good indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piekenier Posted June 28, 2012 Author Share Posted June 28, 2012 Traditionsverband have listed it on their website so i will try to get it from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSWA Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Hi Piekenier If you need information from the Kolonialblatt, I have 1907 1904 ( 1903 is on its way) which I can help you with. Cheers DSWA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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